> Again I don't mean to fully cosign NIMBYism I'm just saying In my city, the same people who are against housing also oppose transit. They don't want the city

> Again I don't mean to fully cosign NIMBYism I'm just saying In my city, the same people who are against housing also oppose transit. They don't want the city to grow, whether successfully or unsuccessfully. If you tell them we can build transit and create walkable neighborhoods, and growth can be a positive rather than a negative, they hate that idea just as much as if we grow and it's a gridlocked disaster. Maybe even more so.