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> Software development is continually emotionally stunted by a lack of people with expertise in multiple other fields. I think Joe's point is about the perenni
by rdtsc 2y ago
> Software development is continually emotionally stunted by a lack of people with expertise in multiple other fields.
I think Joe's point is about the perennial discussion whether hierarchy is better than tags. It's as old as software or as old as people started categorizing things. Some early databases were hierarchical KV stores. Email clients and services go through that too, is it better to group messages by tags or have a single hierarchy of folders?
> English absolutely has namespaces
Sure, we can pick apart the analogy, after all we're not programing in English unless we write LLM prompts (or COBOL /s). Then if English has namespaces what would you pick lager.flat.alcoholic or alcoholic.lager.flat or lager.alcoholic.flat, etc? Is there a top-level "lager" vs "ale" package, with a flat vs carbonated as next level?
- d0mine 2y ago"whether hierarchy is better than tags" sounds like whether hammer is better than a screwdriver. Use a tool appropriate for the job. Hierarchy seems more rigid less general than tags but when it works--it works.
- vaughan 2y agoIt’s very hard to do tags in the physical world. You need to stick different colored post-its to things and do a full table scan (with your eyes) any time you want to process all docs of one tag. Or you cluster things together depending on similar colors. Hierarchy is easy in the physical world. But what is crazy is since the dawn of computing we can store data however we want and project it however we want…and yet we still use hierarchy for file storage…like we still just have a filing cabinet of manilla folders.
- namaria 2y agoWhen someone asks "what is the best tool for this?", the answer "the best tool is the right tool for the job" is a non answer.
- d0mine 2y agoOk. Do tell. If the job doesn’t matter here, what is better hammer or screwdriver?
- namaria 2y agoAre you asking me what is the best way to organize information, trees or tags? Do you also want me to tell you what is the best way to foresee if a given program will halt? The point is, bringing facile statements like "just make the right choice" adds nothing to the conversation. Some problems are hard and trying to short circuit the conversation saying that's easy just pick the right tool doesn't even apply here.
- d0mine 2y agoThe point is that the question of selecting a tool is underspecified unless specific context (job) is given. It says nothing about how easy/hard it is. It is not always true (some tools are just better in any applicable domain) but in this case (hierarchy vs. tags) it is. It is not deep but it is not a truism either.