> I've never heard a single positive story That's because you might not be as well informed as you think probably. 180K miles is nothing for a decent EV. LFP

> I've never heard a single positive story That's because you might not be as well informed as you think probably. 180K miles is nothing for a decent EV. LFP batteries are good for 3000-5000 charging cycles. At around 250 miles per full charge that translates into 750K miles to 1.25M miles. NMC batteries last a bit less long. Their batteries might dip below 80% of the original capacity around the 750 cycle mark (190K miles). Most of the newer ones would do better than that at 1000-1500 cycles. Below 80% they don't suddenly fail. They just drive a bit less far than they used to. Battery failures are pretty rare with EVs. Most manufacturers give 8 year warranties. That's because they are unlikely to fail before the warranty expires. So, it's a cheap promise to make. The model 3 has only been on the market for about 8 years now. Most of them are still under warranty. Most other EVs are newer than that.