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Even if I don't particularly like the individuals, it did feel like some people involved felt compelled to be there, even if they didn't really want to be... Re

by skeeter2020 2y ago

Even if I don't particularly like the individuals, it did feel like some people involved felt compelled to be there, even if they didn't really want to be... Rex Tillerson comes to mind. I can't imagine Trump's moral character sat well with a literal boy scout. John Kelly was another no-nonsense member who seemed steady & driven by a motivation that, agree with or not, was defensible vs. the current batch's motivations. Surprise - he didn't last long either. If there are anyone on the (currently) winning side in this Congress who aren't a bunch of greedy, self-serving boot lickers they better step up soon. I can't imagine someone like John McCain would remain silent in this environment. Best case scenario: history will forget most of these assholes; if not, it will not be kind.

mathgradthrow 2y ago
if you have any scruples and a brain, you'll shut up until you have a chance to obstruct something really important. Its easy to replace you if you vocally oppose trump.
- gnarlouse 2y ago
  You gotta hope.
- ffsm8 2y ago
  It's really surprising how few people seem to understand what working under a hostile regime actually means, and how civil disobedience can never be done publicly - because that would just mean you get replaced and can't help anymore.
Brybry 2y ago
The libertarians in the Republican party, like Massie and Paul, still seem to vote [1] according to their ideology. I don't agree with their ideology but they do seem consistent. [2] Collins, McConnell, and Murkowski have been voting against the administration for more traditional Republican policy, sometimes.[3] Nine Republican Reps blocked H.Res 282[4] because it would have killed bipartisan H.Res 164[5] and that caused the House Republican leaders to cancel votes for the whole week. It's not all lockstep boot licking. Just mostly. [1] https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202550 https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202550 [2] https://xcancel.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1899519328136974771 https://xcancel.com/RepThomasMassie/status/18995193281369747... [3] https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00160.htm https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1... [4] https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202587 https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202587 [5] https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/164 https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolutio...

mathgradthrow 2y ago

if you have any scruples and a brain, you'll shut up until you have a chance to obstruct something really important. Its easy to replace you if you vocally oppose trump.

gnarlouse 2y ago
You gotta hope.
ffsm8 2y ago
It's really surprising how few people seem to understand what working under a hostile regime actually means, and how civil disobedience can never be done publicly - because that would just mean you get replaced and can't help anymore.

Brybry 2y ago

The libertarians in the Republican party, like Massie and Paul, still seem to vote [1] according to their ideology. I don't agree with their ideology but they do seem consistent. [2] Collins, McConnell, and Murkowski have been voting against the administration for more traditional Republican policy, sometimes.[3] Nine Republican Reps blocked H.Res 282[4] because it would have killed bipartisan H.Res 164[5] and that caused the House Republican leaders to cancel votes for the whole week. It's not all lockstep boot licking. Just mostly. [1] https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202550 https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202550 [2] https://xcancel.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1899519328136974771 https://xcancel.com/RepThomasMassie/status/18995193281369747... [3] https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00160.htm https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1... [4] https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202587 https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202587 [5] https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/164 https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolutio...