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But what? Your argument was that they (rich white men) are reprehensible for desiring others to be doing something like factory work, instead of "that". You s

But what? Your argument was that they (rich white men) are reprehensible for desiring others to be doing something like factory work, instead of "that". You say "that" is work, and not sitting around unemployed. Citing a statistic. Ok lets proceed with that. So which work is "that"?

happytoexplain 2y ago
The GP didn't specify the race of the rich people, and the person you're replying to isn't the GP. Apart from that, it's unclear why you're asking for examples of work that isn't factory work.
watwut 2y ago
Overall unemployment rate was around 4%, which is quite low. If you are personally interested in what the exact breakdown of positions is, then I suggest you head to the https://www.bls.gov/ https://www.bls.gov/ or other site that collect these stats and check it out. Unemployment was not even the issue in elections. It was inflation - buying power.
- salawat 2y ago
  Unemployment literally only tracks those interacting with State unemployment insurance. People out of work who aren't interfacing with said established monitoring may as well not exist in the same manner as engine & cockpit shot planes in WWII. In short, citing unemployment is falling for the mother of all survivorship biases. If you're more interested in fake paperwork derived numbers than the actual world though, you do you then.
  - jeffbee 2y ago
    That is not correct. You should close the tab on that shadowstats bullshit. BLS employment measures are calculated from the Current Population Survey and the Current Employment Statistics. CPS is a bimonthly survey of a rolling population of 60000 households. CES is a monthly survey of over 100000 businesses.
  - readthenotes1 2y ago
    "Unemployment literally only tracks those interacting with State unemployment insurance. " They don't do it that way. I don't know if labor force participation measurements are more or less accurate from relying on survey data tho. https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
hakunin 2y ago
I find that this short <3m video explains it well: https://x.com/Ark_Editing/status/1900522055038058803 https://x.com/Ark_Editing/status/1900522055038058803 (start at about 40s)

happytoexplain 2y ago

The GP didn't specify the race of the rich people, and the person you're replying to isn't the GP. Apart from that, it's unclear why you're asking for examples of work that isn't factory work.

watwut 2y ago

Overall unemployment rate was around 4%, which is quite low. If you are personally interested in what the exact breakdown of positions is, then I suggest you head to the https://www.bls.gov/ https://www.bls.gov/ or other site that collect these stats and check it out. Unemployment was not even the issue in elections. It was inflation - buying power.

salawat 2y ago
Unemployment literally only tracks those interacting with State unemployment insurance. People out of work who aren't interfacing with said established monitoring may as well not exist in the same manner as engine & cockpit shot planes in WWII. In short, citing unemployment is falling for the mother of all survivorship biases. If you're more interested in fake paperwork derived numbers than the actual world though, you do you then.
- jeffbee 2y ago
  That is not correct. You should close the tab on that shadowstats bullshit. BLS employment measures are calculated from the Current Population Survey and the Current Employment Statistics. CPS is a bimonthly survey of a rolling population of 60000 households. CES is a monthly survey of over 100000 businesses.
- readthenotes1 2y ago
  "Unemployment literally only tracks those interacting with State unemployment insurance. " They don't do it that way. I don't know if labor force participation measurements are more or less accurate from relying on survey data tho. https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

hakunin 2y ago

I find that this short <3m video explains it well: https://x.com/Ark_Editing/status/1900522055038058803 https://x.com/Ark_Editing/status/1900522055038058803 (start at about 40s)