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If we have enough drugs with different mechanics bacteria can’t out evolve all of them. It becomes less of a risk.
by bilsbie 2y ago
If we have enough drugs with different mechanics bacteria can’t out evolve all of them. It becomes less of a risk.
- pfdietz 2y agoSure they can, by being exposed one at a time, developing resistance to each.
- scaredginger 2y agoThere may be some cost to each resistance gained, reducing the fitness of the bacteria
- pfdietz 2y agoAnd there may be general resistance mechanisms that hit more than one chemical (like changes in membrane permeability and efflux pumps.) Over time, with more exposure, the costs can be expected to decline as resistance is optimized. Ultimately resistance can evolve that kicks in only on exposure to the chemicals in question. Bacteria already do this with, say, the enzyme needed to metabolize lactose. The gene isn't expressed until lactose is present.
- hinkley 2y agoThis is why we use “cocktails” on resistant cases now. Kill it three different ways at once and it cannot adapt fast enough to leave dna fragments for the next microbe to pick up and continue the work.
- lolinder 2y agoJust as long as we don't start overusing the cocktail. Natural selection is a very powerful force, all it takes is one bacterium in a million that has resistance to all three methods to start an evolution.
- ip26 2y agoIdeally you shelve several antibiotics for decades, with the goal of bacteria dropping resistance to it. Sounds like a game theory compliance nightmare though.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoThat's like saying we just need more nukes to deter other people with nukes from nuking us.
- cjbgkagh 2y agoAntibiotics are not a deterrence because bacteria cannot be negotiated with. Similarly the concerns of fallout are minimal. The evolved resistance comes at a cost, evolving many resistances comes at many costs. There is a point where the bacteria cannot continue to evolve resistances yet remain competitive in the absence of the antibiotics. AFAIK there is a new class of molecules specific to thwarting the resistance mechanism that makes the bacteria susceptible again in ways that cannot be out evolved. I'm looking for the general name for this technique - I do remember reading about it.
- bilsbie 2y agoI don’t see the connection.