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It has been called refusing to use proprietary software. People who use FOSS. Users, not useds.
by eimrine 2y ago
It has been called refusing to use proprietary software. People who use FOSS. Users, not useds.
- daliusd 2y agoAI is very open source and very commercialized at the same time. I don't understand your comment.
- eimrine 2y ago"AI" bs generator is not just the code, it is not reproducible without the training set. Also the "AI" software is not something that is not possible to use on machine with 100% open-sourced environment: the newest CPU supporting open-source BIOS is 3rd generation of Intel and such an ancient hardware is not able to run it. So, that kind of LGPB+/Climate Justice/with using artificial intelligence disservices being forced to people are very not open-source. Indeed they are very commercialized.
- diggan 2y ago> AI is very open source ML ecosystem tends to be very open source, true, LLMs a bit less so. So far there are only a few useful open source models (mostly courtesy of Chinese companies), otherwise a lot of the models are either hidden behind paid APIs or falsely marketed as open source but come attached with terms and conditions, use policies, forbidden uses, requires signing agreements upfront and so on.
- daliusd 2y agoSo like any other commercial cloud based system.
- daliusd 2y agoThere is Gemma from Google and various niche models as well. I have not tried to measure exact amount of Chinese vs other, but I guess it is not mainly Chinese.
- diggan 2y ago> There is Gemma from Google Not even Google calls Gemma "open source", nor would anyone with knowledge of "open source" call those models that. If something requires signing an agreement before downloading and/or have a list of prohibited use cases, it's most likely not open source.
- daliusd 2y agoWell it is not propaganda spreading at least. Do we have truly open source model from China in that regard? But really there are niche oss models
- mouse_ 2y agoThe comment you're replying to did not say open source, it said "FOSS" Completely different thing.
- spudlyo 2y agoI've been doing a thought experiment on what it would take to refuse to ingest any non public domain or creative commons licensed content. If one wanted to opt out of commercial entertainment, how hard would that be? This gets complicated pretty quickly, because so much IP is implicitly granted, and poorly labeled.
- spencerflem 2y agoHard, imo. Posts on this forum are not public domain, etc.