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Supporting Palestinians that Israel has been killing for over a year (+50k killed, most were women and children), while starving the rest and ethnically cleansi

Supporting Palestinians that Israel has been killing for over a year (+50k killed, most were women and children), while starving the rest and ethnically cleansing them, is not supporting terrorism.

kitd 2y ago
Too many have been killed, for sure, but you should probably use sources other than the Hamas Health Ministry: https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/hamas-run-health-ministry-quietly-removes-thousands-from-gaza-death-toll-researchers-find https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/hamas-run-health-ministr...
- tome 2y ago
  >Too many have been killed How many killed would have been "not too many"?
  - settrans 2y ago
    That depends on your vantage point. If you accept the mainstream Palestinian viewpoint, i.e. the one that endorses Hamas and the Simchat Torah massacre, there is no such thing as too many, because every Palestinian death furthers the jihadist cause of demonizing Israel. If you accept the mainstream Israeli viewpoint, all of these deaths were unnecessary because they directly resulted from an unprovoked onslaught against innocent civilians, and all of the casualties could have been avoided but for the Gazan misadventure of October 7th. I'm not sure which camp GP subscribes to, however.
LtWorf 2y ago
Not supporting Palestine is supporting terrorism.
settrans 2y ago
1. Hamas bears the moral responsibility for all of the suffering in the war they started on October 7th, and the Palestinian people bear the moral responsibility of electing and supporting them (and participating in the invasion, and not returning the hostages). 2. Even Hamas now admits most deaths have been military aged males: https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-848592 https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-848592 3. How can you argue that Gaza has been starved and ethnically cleansed when the population of the Gaza strip has increased since the start of the war?

Supporting Palestinians that Israel has been killing for over a year (+50k killed, most were women and children), while starving the rest and ethnically cleansing them, is not supporting terrorism.

kitd 2y ago

Too many have been killed, for sure, but you should probably use sources other than the Hamas Health Ministry: https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/hamas-run-health-ministry-quietly-removes-thousands-from-gaza-death-toll-researchers-find https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/hamas-run-health-ministr...

tome 2y ago
>Too many have been killed How many killed would have been "not too many"?
- settrans 2y ago
  That depends on your vantage point. If you accept the mainstream Palestinian viewpoint, i.e. the one that endorses Hamas and the Simchat Torah massacre, there is no such thing as too many, because every Palestinian death furthers the jihadist cause of demonizing Israel. If you accept the mainstream Israeli viewpoint, all of these deaths were unnecessary because they directly resulted from an unprovoked onslaught against innocent civilians, and all of the casualties could have been avoided but for the Gazan misadventure of October 7th. I'm not sure which camp GP subscribes to, however.

LtWorf 2y ago

Not supporting Palestine is supporting terrorism.

settrans 2y ago

1. Hamas bears the moral responsibility for all of the suffering in the war they started on October 7th, and the Palestinian people bear the moral responsibility of electing and supporting them (and participating in the invasion, and not returning the hostages). 2. Even Hamas now admits most deaths have been military aged males: https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-848592 https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-848592 3. How can you argue that Gaza has been starved and ethnically cleansed when the population of the Gaza strip has increased since the start of the war?