Recurring rationale I've noticed in this conversation: If nobody harshly slams this, they might think they're good designers. The designers are so arrogant, t

Recurring rationale I've noticed in this conversation: If nobody harshly slams this, they might think they're good designers. The designers are so arrogant, thinking they could redesign such an important website. Harsh feedback makes you better. -- First, I have never encountered anyone important (to me) who cared what HN thought, or even rethought their opinions after reading HN slam something. I've only heard people talking about HN as a source of news, not as a relevant gauge of anything, and certainly not to reconsider if one is right or wrong. Frankly, nobody ever should pause and reconsider what they are doing because of HN's sentiment; at this point it's still better than some random forum, you get a lot of useful links and facts, but the critiques are totally worthless. People rarely try to be helpful here, it's just a positive feedback loop of nerds trying to show that they have more refined taste, more nuanced discernment, or a bigger mouth than the nerd before him.