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Tell HN: Pocket (acquired by Moz) only works with FF now

13 points by anon6362 2y ago

They've pulled their browser extensions and integrations except for Firefox. The definition of blatant enshitification and anti-competitive. Moz needs to be held accountable by the EU for this kind of crap. Dead links: - https://getpocket.com/apps/link/pocket-chrome?s=ADD_PAGE&ep=1 - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/save-to-pocket/niloccemoadcdkdjlinkgdfekeahmflj

yomismoaqui 2y ago
This is 4chan worthy fan-fiction
- anon6362 2y ago
  I don't understand. What do you mean?
slater 2y ago
Remember when Mozilla swore up and down that they'd make Pocket a separate extension only, and not have it tightly integrated? Good times.
- misiti3780 2y ago
  and they said they were open sourcing it...
- sieabahlpark 2y ago
  [dead]
zimpenfish 2y ago
Still in the Safari extensions it looks like but then hasn't been updated in 5 years...
- anon6362 2y ago
  I just hope they don't shut off APIs intentionally breaking stuff that works.
  - zimpenfish 2y ago
    Well, they've recently (afaict last September) nerfed the client API - my local updater used to fetch 5000 URLs at a time from the API (worked for ~9 years) but now it's 30 returned max per request with tighter rate limits and it'll also randomly just not bother to return any results or a 500 or a 404 regardless of rate limits.
bestouff 2y ago
I love how the only thing seen as able to exert justice is the EU.
- anon6362 2y ago
  The US isn't going to lift a finger unless it's associated with China.
InsideOutSanta 2y ago
I've recently switched from Instapaper to a self-hosted instance of Shiori for read-it-later-type functionality. It's small, fast, and open-source. There's also hoarder for when I have no idea if I ever need to remember something, but I might, so I want it stored somewhere. Both of these are excellent tools.
- anon6362 2y ago
  I just wished Obsidian, Session (a Signal fork without metadata), and/or MEGA had a multiplatform bookmarks paid zero-knowledge sync service with the option of FOSS self-hosting.
Nelkins 2y ago
While we're talking about Firefox, does anybody feel like it's gotten dog-slow recently compared to Chrome? Testing with the following gist it takes FF 2.7 seconds on my machine for the page to fully load, and only ~400 ms in Chrome. https://gist.github.com/NatElkins/6f2538e58778fdf2868419d8248e10a1 https://gist.github.com/NatElkins/6f2538e58778fdf2868419d824...
- sshine 2y ago
  I wouldn't say dog slow. Because it implies some kind of comparison to a breathing entity. I would say, it kills my iOS, my MacBook and my Linux. It's shit. I thought my iPhone 13 was broken, but it turns out, if I never start Firefox, it works perfectly. A couple of years ago I think they had some performance problems with a lot of tabs. Seems like they're back to having the same problems they used to have. I've worked at places that kept re-introducing the same software bugs month after month. Certain way to lose your customers.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    > I thought my iPhone 13 was broken, but it turns out, if I never start Firefox, it works perfectly. See, that's weird because that's still WebKit. Obviously there's plenty of room for variation - good and bad! - in the wrapper around the engine, but I still think of the core browser engine as being the interesting bit.
    - anon6362 2y ago
      Yep, both major non-Safari Mobile browser are still using WebKit, which means, it's probably better to use Safari unless there are compelling features that break out of the walled garden. Apple rescinded the "WebKit for every browser" requirement, but Chrome iOS with the Blink rendering engine will supposedly arrive this year (2025) and yet I don't think a similar FF Quantum for iOS will happen anytime soon. I happened to have FF installed on an iPhone 13 Pro because it synced over from an iCloud backup but I never bothered to run it since I tried running on an iPhone 6S once-upon-a-time.
    - 2y ago
anon6362 2y ago
Btw, also, the official bookmarklet also doesn't work. "Please login." while logged-in. Here's a working bookmarklet: https://xaviesteve.com/6344/add-to-pocket-bookmarklet-alternative-fixes-please-login-problem-and-other-errors/ https://xaviesteve.com/6344/add-to-pocket-bookmarklet-altern...
SJetKaran 2y ago
Any worthy alternatives that people recommend?

13 points by anon6362 2y ago

yomismoaqui 2y ago

This is 4chan worthy fan-fiction

anon6362 2y ago
I don't understand. What do you mean?

slater 2y ago

Remember when Mozilla swore up and down that they'd make Pocket a separate extension only, and not have it tightly integrated? Good times.

misiti3780 2y ago
and they said they were open sourcing it...
sieabahlpark 2y ago
[dead]

zimpenfish 2y ago

Still in the Safari extensions it looks like but then hasn't been updated in 5 years...

anon6362 2y ago
I just hope they don't shut off APIs intentionally breaking stuff that works.
- zimpenfish 2y ago
  Well, they've recently (afaict last September) nerfed the client API - my local updater used to fetch 5000 URLs at a time from the API (worked for ~9 years) but now it's 30 returned max per request with tighter rate limits and it'll also randomly just not bother to return any results or a 500 or a 404 regardless of rate limits.

bestouff 2y ago

I love how the only thing seen as able to exert justice is the EU.

anon6362 2y ago
The US isn't going to lift a finger unless it's associated with China.

InsideOutSanta 2y ago

I've recently switched from Instapaper to a self-hosted instance of Shiori for read-it-later-type functionality. It's small, fast, and open-source. There's also hoarder for when I have no idea if I ever need to remember something, but I might, so I want it stored somewhere. Both of these are excellent tools.

anon6362 2y ago
I just wished Obsidian, Session (a Signal fork without metadata), and/or MEGA had a multiplatform bookmarks paid zero-knowledge sync service with the option of FOSS self-hosting.

Nelkins 2y ago

While we're talking about Firefox, does anybody feel like it's gotten dog-slow recently compared to Chrome? Testing with the following gist it takes FF 2.7 seconds on my machine for the page to fully load, and only ~400 ms in Chrome. https://gist.github.com/NatElkins/6f2538e58778fdf2868419d8248e10a1 https://gist.github.com/NatElkins/6f2538e58778fdf2868419d824...

sshine 2y ago
I wouldn't say dog slow. Because it implies some kind of comparison to a breathing entity. I would say, it kills my iOS, my MacBook and my Linux. It's shit. I thought my iPhone 13 was broken, but it turns out, if I never start Firefox, it works perfectly. A couple of years ago I think they had some performance problems with a lot of tabs. Seems like they're back to having the same problems they used to have. I've worked at places that kept re-introducing the same software bugs month after month. Certain way to lose your customers.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  > I thought my iPhone 13 was broken, but it turns out, if I never start Firefox, it works perfectly. See, that's weird because that's still WebKit. Obviously there's plenty of room for variation - good and bad! - in the wrapper around the engine, but I still think of the core browser engine as being the interesting bit.
  - anon6362 2y ago
    Yep, both major non-Safari Mobile browser are still using WebKit, which means, it's probably better to use Safari unless there are compelling features that break out of the walled garden. Apple rescinded the "WebKit for every browser" requirement, but Chrome iOS with the Blink rendering engine will supposedly arrive this year (2025) and yet I don't think a similar FF Quantum for iOS will happen anytime soon. I happened to have FF installed on an iPhone 13 Pro because it synced over from an iCloud backup but I never bothered to run it since I tried running on an iPhone 6S once-upon-a-time.
  - 2y ago

anon6362 2y ago

Btw, also, the official bookmarklet also doesn't work. "Please login." while logged-in. Here's a working bookmarklet: https://xaviesteve.com/6344/add-to-pocket-bookmarklet-alternative-fixes-please-login-problem-and-other-errors/ https://xaviesteve.com/6344/add-to-pocket-bookmarklet-altern...

SJetKaran 2y ago

Any worthy alternatives that people recommend?