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I’m convinced they don’t think it’s okay, they just think whatever Fox News tells them endlessly is what’s okay If Fox News tomorrow changed their tone and mes

I’m convinced they don’t think it’s okay, they just think whatever Fox News tells them endlessly is what’s okay If Fox News tomorrow changed their tone and message all those sheep would change It’s that simple

wat10000 2y ago
For sure. It took about two seconds after USAID got wrecked for people to come out of the woodwork saying “oh yeah, USAID was notoriously corrupt, everybody knew that forever.” When I’m pretty sure they didn’t know the place existed the previous day.
- budududuroiu 2y ago
  Hearing your average Joe suddenly start talking about USAID using the same talking points and tone as a Twitter Marxist Leninist tankie was indeed wild
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    The most ironic part about the entire USAID debacle was the complete failure of the new right to understand why American soft power was engineered that way, and what it was doing. It was like an even more hamfisted change management process than the neocons upsetting their apple carts, before they understood how things were balanced on them. Not to say anything shouldn't be changed, but jesus... folks need to have a little humility and curiosity -- try to understand what the folks before them were attempting to do and how.
    - nerdponx 2y ago
      Much of the DOGE-driven chaos is just executing Project 2025 objectives. The justification of course is retroactive. The objectives are domestic and political.
      - wat10000 2y ago
        "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem" has been a Republican cornerstone for decades. None of the DOGE stuff should be the least bit surprising, and to say that they fail to understand what these agencies do is to miss the point entirely. They don't care. Government agencies are axiomatically bad and shutting them down is axiomatically good, that's it.
deepfriedchokes 2y ago
IMHO, Fox News just plays to their anger for profit, but the underlying reasons they are angry are valid and not being dealt with. My theory is the underlying issue is capitalism failing society, but like the church, they aren’t allowed to question it.

wat10000 2y ago

For sure. It took about two seconds after USAID got wrecked for people to come out of the woodwork saying “oh yeah, USAID was notoriously corrupt, everybody knew that forever.” When I’m pretty sure they didn’t know the place existed the previous day.

budududuroiu 2y ago
Hearing your average Joe suddenly start talking about USAID using the same talking points and tone as a Twitter Marxist Leninist tankie was indeed wild
- ethbr1 2y ago
  The most ironic part about the entire USAID debacle was the complete failure of the new right to understand why American soft power was engineered that way, and what it was doing. It was like an even more hamfisted change management process than the neocons upsetting their apple carts, before they understood how things were balanced on them. Not to say anything shouldn't be changed, but jesus... folks need to have a little humility and curiosity -- try to understand what the folks before them were attempting to do and how.
  - nerdponx 2y ago
    Much of the DOGE-driven chaos is just executing Project 2025 objectives. The justification of course is retroactive. The objectives are domestic and political.
    - wat10000 2y ago
      "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem" has been a Republican cornerstone for decades. None of the DOGE stuff should be the least bit surprising, and to say that they fail to understand what these agencies do is to miss the point entirely. They don't care. Government agencies are axiomatically bad and shutting them down is axiomatically good, that's it.

deepfriedchokes 2y ago

IMHO, Fox News just plays to their anger for profit, but the underlying reasons they are angry are valid and not being dealt with. My theory is the underlying issue is capitalism failing society, but like the church, they aren’t allowed to question it.