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>Then immediately stop reading. The details don't matter at this point. That's truly an absurd suggestion. I hope you're just attempting to make some kind of p

>Then immediately stop reading. The details don't matter at this point. That's truly an absurd suggestion. I hope you're just attempting to make some kind of point, but not suggesting people actually ignore "the details"

lenerdenator 2y ago
People have been doing nothing but reading "the details" for the last ten years. Where are we?
- mmooss 2y ago
  I'd say it's the opposite. They are flooded with misinformation, disinformation, and disruptive trauma, and don't read the facts.
  - lenerdenator 2y ago
    He's President. He was convicted of 34 felony counts and got no sentence. Like I can do nothing but list stuff for the next hour. It makes no difference. If you still need to read about it... jeeze.
    - lazystar 2y ago
      bingo. i have nothing to add, just chiming in to let you know theres others out there who are at the point of not reading about it any longer. if the people who are in a position to do something about it arent doing anything about it, then reading more about it is as useful as watching porn.
    - mmooss 2y ago
      > I can do nothing The far right and Trump's biggest support is people acting helpless and spreading their dogma of helplessness. It's surreal to see how effective their propaganda is - this is right out of psyops playbooks. It's truly unmaerican to throw up your hands - nobody is going to do it for you, and anything is possible. That's part of freedom.
      - lenerdenator 2y ago
        I'm not saying "Do nothing", I'm saying "stop reading". Just reading stuff on social media and tsk-tsking got us nowhere. We have to do more.
        mmooss 2y ago
        > Just reading stuff on social media and tsk-tsking got us nowhere. We have to do more. I think it's necessary (to a point, in a certain way) but certainly not sufficient. If you surrender social media to mis/disinformation - as the Democratic Party seems to have done - you're going to lose for sure. But a persuasive, positive (e.g., not cynical), honest argument sets an example that those things are important and powerful - and they are - and that there is a valid point of view out there.

lenerdenator 2y ago

People have been doing nothing but reading "the details" for the last ten years. Where are we?

mmooss 2y ago
I'd say it's the opposite. They are flooded with misinformation, disinformation, and disruptive trauma, and don't read the facts.
- lenerdenator 2y ago
  He's President. He was convicted of 34 felony counts and got no sentence. Like I can do nothing but list stuff for the next hour. It makes no difference. If you still need to read about it... jeeze.
  - lazystar 2y ago
    bingo. i have nothing to add, just chiming in to let you know theres others out there who are at the point of not reading about it any longer. if the people who are in a position to do something about it arent doing anything about it, then reading more about it is as useful as watching porn.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    > I can do nothing The far right and Trump's biggest support is people acting helpless and spreading their dogma of helplessness. It's surreal to see how effective their propaganda is - this is right out of psyops playbooks. It's truly unmaerican to throw up your hands - nobody is going to do it for you, and anything is possible. That's part of freedom.
    - lenerdenator 2y ago
      I'm not saying "Do nothing", I'm saying "stop reading". Just reading stuff on social media and tsk-tsking got us nowhere. We have to do more.
      - mmooss 2y ago
        > Just reading stuff on social media and tsk-tsking got us nowhere. We have to do more. I think it's necessary (to a point, in a certain way) but certainly not sufficient. If you surrender social media to mis/disinformation - as the Democratic Party seems to have done - you're going to lose for sure. But a persuasive, positive (e.g., not cynical), honest argument sets an example that those things are important and powerful - and they are - and that there is a valid point of view out there.