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You don't believe there has been widespread failures if not malpractice and outright fraud in many journals and published studies resulting in replication crise

You don't believe there has been widespread failures if not malpractice and outright fraud in many journals and published studies resulting in replication crises and performative/self-serving peer review over the last several years? Also cars can read speed limit signs pretty accurately. GPS is pretty accurate. It should not be possible to go highway speeds in areas that are purely residential and miles away from the highway. Also we could make a more accurate map enforcement system. Not trivial but straightforward.

viraptor 2y ago
> ... over the last several years? I'm taking about this specific research here. > cars can read speed limit signs pretty accurately. Only when they're not covered by trees, snow, other cars, are not damaged, workers didn't forget to uncover them, etc. And from time to time you will sync with a car in another lane just the right way to miss the sign. > GPS is pretty accurate Often. Yet, I will regularly get placed on the wrong road in larger cities. It doesn't have to be a highway speed problem - since the idea is automated enforcement, going 10k/h over the limit of the parallel street is already an issue. > we could make a more accurate map enforcement system Maybe in a distant future. Right now, we're at step 0: there's no publicly available accurate digital map of all streets. There are various segments in different agencies, there are global commercial maps, and there are community efforts. Until that's solved, the issue is moot.
- pclowes 2y ago
  I just don’t think it is that hard of a problem. The legislative hurdle is much higher than the technological difficulty. You can always fail safe. Eg (extreme case) unless your car can prove to itself it is on a highway or a high-speed street it can only go 25 mph.
  - viraptor 2y ago
    > prove to itself it is on a highway or a high-speed street it can only go 25 mph. GPS attacks are real and even common in some areas. Do you know how much havoc could an adversary cause on traffic / cargo transport if this was implemented? Imagine a large American highway near a big city being blocked that way for days.
    - pclowes 2y ago
      You could override it and i am sure “gps attack” would be an allowed exception. People can hack cars already. We didnt always have to make everything to serve cars and we can stop anytime we want.

viraptor 2y ago

> ... over the last several years? I'm taking about this specific research here. > cars can read speed limit signs pretty accurately. Only when they're not covered by trees, snow, other cars, are not damaged, workers didn't forget to uncover them, etc. And from time to time you will sync with a car in another lane just the right way to miss the sign. > GPS is pretty accurate Often. Yet, I will regularly get placed on the wrong road in larger cities. It doesn't have to be a highway speed problem - since the idea is automated enforcement, going 10k/h over the limit of the parallel street is already an issue. > we could make a more accurate map enforcement system Maybe in a distant future. Right now, we're at step 0: there's no publicly available accurate digital map of all streets. There are various segments in different agencies, there are global commercial maps, and there are community efforts. Until that's solved, the issue is moot.

pclowes 2y ago
I just don’t think it is that hard of a problem. The legislative hurdle is much higher than the technological difficulty. You can always fail safe. Eg (extreme case) unless your car can prove to itself it is on a highway or a high-speed street it can only go 25 mph.
- viraptor 2y ago
  > prove to itself it is on a highway or a high-speed street it can only go 25 mph. GPS attacks are real and even common in some areas. Do you know how much havoc could an adversary cause on traffic / cargo transport if this was implemented? Imagine a large American highway near a big city being blocked that way for days.
  - pclowes 2y ago
    You could override it and i am sure “gps attack” would be an allowed exception. People can hack cars already. We didnt always have to make everything to serve cars and we can stop anytime we want.