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> Are you really astonished by this? Yes, because it's literally not a thing that I see happen. It seems like a terribly intrusive question to ask, and I certa
by JohnFen 2y ago
> Are you really astonished by this?
Yes, because it's literally not a thing that I see happen. It seems like a terribly intrusive question to ask, and I certainly wouldn't ever feel comfortable asking anyone.
> What your "social group" does is outside the norm.
Perhaps now, but myself and most of my social group are old enough that it absolutely was the norm when we were younger. I was unaware that this was a thing that had changed.
> They are using ignorance to maintain tribal unity
Certainly not, since most know each other's political stances through the ordinary course of interacting with each other over the years.
> My guess is that your actually not astonished at all.
You guess wrong, so your personal attack here is powerless.
> pretending you're unaware of how abnormally impartial your group is
I never claimed my social circle was impartial at all, let alone "abnormally impartial". You're reading things into my statements that aren't there.
- ninetyninenine 2y ago[flagged]
- JohnFen 2y ago> Saying you're pretending is not a personal attack. Saying I'm pretending is the same thing as saying that I'm lying. But it doesn't really matter either way. Your claims about what's in my head are mistaken. You are, of course, free to think anything you like.
- ninetyninenine 2y ago>Saying I'm pretending is the same thing as saying that I'm lying. But it doesn't really matter either way. Your claims about what's in my head are mistaken. You are, of course, free to think anything you like. Correct, I think you're lying. But that's an extreme way to put it. You're more humble bragging. Again, it wasn't an attack. Even if I say you're lying it's not an attack either. I'm just stating what I'm thinking.
- JohnFen 2y agoOrdinarily, this is where I'd leave it (a real discussion is impossible if one side thinks the other isn't being honest), but I'm really curious... You've used the term "humble bragging" twice now. What in my statements do you think counts as a brag? I was just saying what my personal experience is, and I can't think of what I've said that would be anything to brag about, humble or otherwise. My experience is just my experience, not some kind of superior one.
- ninetyninenine 2y agoI think asking another person or a friend who they voted for is not really "astonishing". It felt like you were using that to sort of show off your position as someone who both would never do that and hangs out with people who don't do that. It's like the position established in the article was "obvious" because you're "superior". That was the slight tone I was sensing.
- JohnFen 2y agoWell, your read couldn't possibly be more wrong. I don't think my situation is anything better than anyone else's, so there's nothing to "show off". Your mindreading machine is broken. But you think I'm a liar, so there's no point in talking about this any further. Thanks for your response.
- ninetyninenine 2y agoAgreed, I still think your lying. Thank you as well.