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When I've found myself being publicly tsk'ed by the people around me, I've taken a moment to try go figure out why they disapprove of what I'm saying. It's been
by kstrauser 2y ago
When I've found myself being publicly tsk'ed by the people around me, I've taken a moment to try go figure out why they disapprove of what I'm saying. It's been a useful life exercise.
- ceejayoz 2y agoSometimes you're right, sometimes they are. Sometimes, as the Rick & Morty quote goes, "Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer."
- kstrauser 2y agoFor sure, but then the followup question is "do I want to spend my time and energy around a bunch of people I think are wrong?'
- ceejayoz 2y agoIf they're correct, maybe?
- Tadpole9181 2y agoOften times, you comment not to change the mind of the person you're replying to, but to provide a rebuttal for the readers at home. If nobody challenges problematic ideology or corrects misinformation, it can spread like a disease.
- dkjaudyeqooe 2y agoShouldn't that be directed to those with an agenda who and are flagging certain posts? Those of us who complain about this highly targeted flagging just want to avoid censorship. I can't see how we need to reflect on this.
- dpkirchner 2y agoForums like this are "censored" and that's a really good thing. We don't need a steady stream of (for example) hate for women, minorities, and trans people that you see on truly uncensored forums.
- dkjaudyeqooe 2y agoI agree, but when that is abused because of a minorities' preference, then it's bad. That's what's happening here.
- dpkirchner 2y agoI think we need to get specific -- what preferences are you referring to, and who is the minority? EcommerceFlow mentioned opinions that are "very normal nationally." I don't want to assume the worst so I'm trying not to read in to that.
- bee_rider 2y agoI mean, I don’t generally like to go over somebody’s posting history because it feels like stupid very-online silliness, but they brought it up. I see some unflagged center-right political opinions sometimes. It is stuff that a mainstream democrat would probably disagree with but find, like, not odious or offensive. Therefore I think they are just getting flagged because any political opinions here have a chance of getting flagged. This is how the website is supposed to work, if we as a community decided that mainstream political opinions were ok, the site would become a place to argue about what exactly is considered mainstream.
- cbeach 2y ago
- aliqot 2y agoI don't think the person getting flagged is always deserving of the dogpile. Your comment implies "you should take this time in timeout to think about your actions" which is just a gentler form of rhetorical struggle sessions, and not always warranted.
- kstrauser 2y agoFor sure. I've had comments flagged that I thought were perfectly reasonable and non-controversial. My first reaction was to be angry and annoyed. But then my kinder angels suggested that perhaps I phrased my idea poorly and people misunderstood that I was largely agreeing with them, or at least very respectfully disagreeing. And then I decided to be more careful with my phrasing next time.