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I was charging at a supercharger in Las Vegas on my way to California on Monday. While sitting in my vehicle a police car rolled up and asked me to roll down my

I was charging at a supercharger in Las Vegas on my way to California on Monday. While sitting in my vehicle a police car rolled up and asked me to roll down my window. The officer then asked if there was anything suspicious or concerning that I noticed. I said no and he said good we are trying to stay ahead of it. Until that moment I hadn’t really worried about Tesla protests and vandalism.

jlongr 2y ago
Sell your car. You're driving around a swastika with wheels.
- fragmede 2y ago
  swasticar was right there!
  - spwa4 2y ago
    The problem is: people don't care. In case you don't believe that: look up Volkswagen history (as if the name wasn't enough of a hint) and I think you will agree that Tesla may be a swasticar ... it's not the first swasticar.
    - omnimus 2y ago
      Or Ford.
    - ttepasse 2y ago
      But current Volkswagen leader- and ownership is not nazi, unlike Tesla. VW in effect was re-founded after the war by the British military administration as a trust and only privatised into a public company in the 1960s. The biggest shareholders of BMW on the other hand are still the Quandt family whose grandfather Günther Quandt definitely was Nazi member, collaborator, donator and massively profiteered from the slave labour by concentration camp victims and prisoners of war.
    - rsynnott 2y ago
      I mean, if in 80 years Tesla is called Cybertruck (the company set up to make Volkswagens was not called Volkswagen, and produced effectively zero civilian cars in its Nazi era), has been appropriated from its previous owners, who went to prison or worse, is a separate legal entity, and shares no principals with the original company, then you might have a point. Ford is a closer comparison, but even there, Henry Ford was no longer really involved in the company when he went really publicly off the rails (he'd handed it over to his son by then). There's not much precedent for Tesla's situation, where the _current_ leadership is being publicly insane.
aisenik 2y ago
From another perspective, because you drive a symbol of the new authoritarian state armed state enforcers essentially offered to target people at your discretion and it reinforced your acceptance of state propaganda. I'm not sure you realize it but in that moment you were given the opportunity to destroy the lives of any scapegoated person/group you could locate in the vicinity. The administration has sought the most extreme charges and punishments possible for Tesla-related dissent, even advocating sending American citizens to CECOT. The ability to wield immense state violence in this fashion is worth protesting against! I find your story a harrowing tale of how our new fascist state seeks to wield violence against the citizenry.

jlongr 2y ago

Sell your car. You're driving around a swastika with wheels.

fragmede 2y ago
swasticar was right there!
- spwa4 2y ago
  The problem is: people don't care. In case you don't believe that: look up Volkswagen history (as if the name wasn't enough of a hint) and I think you will agree that Tesla may be a swasticar ... it's not the first swasticar.
  - omnimus 2y ago
    Or Ford.
  - ttepasse 2y ago
    But current Volkswagen leader- and ownership is not nazi, unlike Tesla. VW in effect was re-founded after the war by the British military administration as a trust and only privatised into a public company in the 1960s. The biggest shareholders of BMW on the other hand are still the Quandt family whose grandfather Günther Quandt definitely was Nazi member, collaborator, donator and massively profiteered from the slave labour by concentration camp victims and prisoners of war.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    I mean, if in 80 years Tesla is called Cybertruck (the company set up to make Volkswagens was not called Volkswagen, and produced effectively zero civilian cars in its Nazi era), has been appropriated from its previous owners, who went to prison or worse, is a separate legal entity, and shares no principals with the original company, then you might have a point. Ford is a closer comparison, but even there, Henry Ford was no longer really involved in the company when he went really publicly off the rails (he'd handed it over to his son by then). There's not much precedent for Tesla's situation, where the _current_ leadership is being publicly insane.

aisenik 2y ago

From another perspective, because you drive a symbol of the new authoritarian state armed state enforcers essentially offered to target people at your discretion and it reinforced your acceptance of state propaganda. I'm not sure you realize it but in that moment you were given the opportunity to destroy the lives of any scapegoated person/group you could locate in the vicinity. The administration has sought the most extreme charges and punishments possible for Tesla-related dissent, even advocating sending American citizens to CECOT. The ability to wield immense state violence in this fashion is worth protesting against! I find your story a harrowing tale of how our new fascist state seeks to wield violence against the citizenry.