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My company (located in Canada) has experimented with 4 day weeks, and adopted a "4-day weeks for summers" perk Personally I noticed the same things. I am less

My company (located in Canada) has experimented with 4 day weeks, and adopted a "4-day weeks for summers" perk Personally I noticed the same things. I am less stressed, but more or less just as productive. It seems counter intuitive, I suppose but the extra time to rest does mean I'm more fresh and alert for the time I work I'm glad to see countries taking this research seriously and I hope more companies move towards this

toomuchtodo 2y ago
I think there are two components to this, from a systems perspective. The first is sentiment. Lots of people in positions of authority and power have their identity tied up in their work. They would work 7 days a week if they could. This is the culture they want to push down (think Jamie Dimon [worth ~$2.4B] demanding 5 days a week in office in typical Boomer fashion). Sentiment takes time to change (Overton Window [1]). The second component is worker rights and power to demand reduced hours since we're already so productive in the aggregate [2] [3]; this is inevitable due to structural demographics [4] [5]. (4 day week proponent, almost all 4 day week trial results are very favorable, work to live, don't live to work) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window [2] https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-owns-americas-wealth/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-o... [3] http://oxfam.org/en/research/multilaterialism-era-global-oligarchy http://oxfam.org/en/research/multilaterialism-era-global-oli... [4] https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2020/09/18/the-great-demographic-reversal-and-what-it-means-for-the-economy/ https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2020/09/18/the-great-... [5] https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-42657-6 https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-42657-6
- bluefirebrand 2y ago
  > Lots of people in positions of authority and power have their identity tied up in their work. They would work 7 days a week if they could. This is the culture they want to push down (think Jamie Dimon [worth ~$2.4B] demanding 5 days a week in office in typical Boomer fashion). Sentiment takes time to change (Overton Window [1]) Yes, unfortunately this doesn't seem likely to change much either because people like this tend to promote other people like this, which makes it difficult to displace the outdated attitude
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Organizing, unions, labor law. Otherwise, you're always under someone cracking the whip for shareholder returns and management comp. I am not against those gains, but in moderation, we only get one life.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

I think there are two components to this, from a systems perspective. The first is sentiment. Lots of people in positions of authority and power have their identity tied up in their work. They would work 7 days a week if they could. This is the culture they want to push down (think Jamie Dimon [worth ~$2.4B] demanding 5 days a week in office in typical Boomer fashion). Sentiment takes time to change (Overton Window [1]). The second component is worker rights and power to demand reduced hours since we're already so productive in the aggregate [2] [3]; this is inevitable due to structural demographics [4] [5]. (4 day week proponent, almost all 4 day week trial results are very favorable, work to live, don't live to work) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window [2] https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-owns-americas-wealth/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-o... [3] http://oxfam.org/en/research/multilaterialism-era-global-oligarchy http://oxfam.org/en/research/multilaterialism-era-global-oli... [4] https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2020/09/18/the-great-demographic-reversal-and-what-it-means-for-the-economy/ https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2020/09/18/the-great-... [5] https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-42657-6 https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-42657-6

bluefirebrand 2y ago
> Lots of people in positions of authority and power have their identity tied up in their work. They would work 7 days a week if they could. This is the culture they want to push down (think Jamie Dimon [worth ~$2.4B] demanding 5 days a week in office in typical Boomer fashion). Sentiment takes time to change (Overton Window [1]) Yes, unfortunately this doesn't seem likely to change much either because people like this tend to promote other people like this, which makes it difficult to displace the outdated attitude
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Organizing, unions, labor law. Otherwise, you're always under someone cracking the whip for shareholder returns and management comp. I am not against those gains, but in moderation, we only get one life.