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People are hostile to that posting because it talks down to its readers by being a gigantic infographic, as if the reader was retarded, instead of being a few p
by shrughes 14y ago
People are hostile to that posting because it talks down to its readers by being a gigantic infographic, as if the reader was retarded, instead of being a few paragraphs of text. Also, the idea is without merit, and you don't need to read past the first character to realize that it's made by people with a preference for form over function. It is a truly revolting submission.
- jongold 14y ago(for all its flaws) that's just how you structure a design presentation.
- xqyz 14y agoI kind of disagree. I think there would have been better ways to present a design. For startes it would have been nice to know why specific decisions were made instead of just "we thought it was prettier". Maybe usability studies, A/B test results and if at all possible some form of prototype, even if it is just static. Plus the article lacks consideration for mobile and small screen platform (i.e. considering edge cases). In fact I'd go as far as to say it actively disregards them by choosing gigantic fonts and lots of useless whitespace in favor of useful content.
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- shrughes 14y agoThe fact that this got voted up kind of disturbs me.
- anextio 14y ago> people with a preference for form over function People who keep using that phrase as an excuse to hate on anything designed that they don't like are the truly revolting people. Stifling discussion, silencing opinions, and perpetuating engineer-elitism.
- bpatrianakos 14y agoFirst, now you're guilty of exactly the tone the OP is complaining about. Second, youre implying design is how so,etching looks. I said it in the original thread and I'll say it again, it was really pretty how they redesigned Wikipedia but it still wasn't good because they glossed over very important critical concepts am functionality of the site. It was no different than slapping a fresh coat of paint on any "ugly" website and calling it a day. Visually appealing had nothing to do with it.
- markkat 14y ago>It is a truly revolting submission. This is the problem. The MSM is full of hyperbole. One nice thing about HN is that it is rarely rewarded here. You could have said: People are hostile to that posting because it talks down to its readers by being a gigantic infographic. It could have been explained in a few paragraphs of text. Also, the idea appears to be made by people with a preference for form over function. Therefore it has little practical merit. It would have made the same point, without the hostility or hyperbole. Personally, I found the overall idea unrealistic, but it was interesting to see Wikipedia mocked up in another way. Their schematic using the color bars for languages gave me some ideas.
- debacle 14y agoBut to anyone who understands the dichotomy between those people and the people who get real work done, "revolting" is the right word.
- markkat 14y agoIMO so readily putting people into groups of 'approval' and 'disapproval' based upon such limited information is a mistake. Quickly writing off others as those people seems close-minded, and you can miss out on a lot of opportunities with such an attitude.
- sp332 14y agoA presentation about design that shows instead of tells is hardly condescending! This is not an infographic. An infographic is a summary, this is a point-by-point walkthrough of the meaning of each design element. P.S. Form over function is not evil.
- prodigal_erik 14y ago> Form over function is not evil. I must disagree wholeheartedly, all the more regarding a tool as valuable as Wikipedia. As small as I try to keep my identity, this is part of it. I suspect some of the hostility we're seeing is a delayed reaction to the prevalence of this viewpoint here. HN no longer has consensus about which of the Two Cultures is favored.