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Your case is predicated on the assumption that national security is a goal, and therefore highly flawed, as that is only the idealized goal of our military sect

by ty6853 2y ago

Your case is predicated on the assumption that national security is a goal, and therefore highly flawed, as that is only the idealized goal of our military sector. Soldiers are largely brainwashed and lied to about this, which often perpetuates this thinking, as there may be some feeling somehow these indictments strike their core rather than where the real blame belongs which is in the high level orchestrators.

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sorcerer-mar 2y ago
No, my case is predicated on it being bad to share information about an upcoming military operation with the Editor in Chief of The Atlantic and that doing so is the result is of a series of objectively illegal and incompetent actions. The lack of investigation is an exemplar mechanism by which incompetence is allowed to rise to the top of regimes like this one. There's no 5D chess. These people are just incompetent. Your gripes about the military-industrial complex are irrelevant.
- ty6853 2y ago
  >No, my case is predicated on it being bad to share information about an upcoming military operation with the Editor in Chief of The Atlantic and that doing so is the result is of a series of objectively illegal and incompetent actions. We are in 99% agreement depending on framing. By my or your standard what they did was bad and incompetent. I'm judging by the standards for which they are selected -- burning budget to keep the right people paid. At that they are quite competent and agilely shift from Ukraine to further incursion in the ME. In this endeavor, bad opsec is competence as evacuating the target creates further opportunity for operations. The odd drone getting shot down would even be desirable from this view. >Your gripes about the military-industrial complex are irrelevant. They are relevant because they help you understand the criteria of competence and understand the one for which they were selected. You or I hypothetically may be better at opsec but we would be incompetent since we would not diligently work to achieve my gripes.
  - sorcerer-mar 2y ago
    Lol, they were selected for absolute loyalty to Dear Leader, and now they reap the rewards of that loyalty (zero accountability) while we reap the downsides (incompetent leadership). Have a good day!

by ty6853 2y ago

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sorcerer-mar 2y ago

No, my case is predicated on it being bad to share information about an upcoming military operation with the Editor in Chief of The Atlantic and that doing so is the result is of a series of objectively illegal and incompetent actions. The lack of investigation is an exemplar mechanism by which incompetence is allowed to rise to the top of regimes like this one. There's no 5D chess. These people are just incompetent. Your gripes about the military-industrial complex are irrelevant.

ty6853 2y ago
>No, my case is predicated on it being bad to share information about an upcoming military operation with the Editor in Chief of The Atlantic and that doing so is the result is of a series of objectively illegal and incompetent actions. We are in 99% agreement depending on framing. By my or your standard what they did was bad and incompetent. I'm judging by the standards for which they are selected -- burning budget to keep the right people paid. At that they are quite competent and agilely shift from Ukraine to further incursion in the ME. In this endeavor, bad opsec is competence as evacuating the target creates further opportunity for operations. The odd drone getting shot down would even be desirable from this view. >Your gripes about the military-industrial complex are irrelevant. They are relevant because they help you understand the criteria of competence and understand the one for which they were selected. You or I hypothetically may be better at opsec but we would be incompetent since we would not diligently work to achieve my gripes.
- sorcerer-mar 2y ago
  Lol, they were selected for absolute loyalty to Dear Leader, and now they reap the rewards of that loyalty (zero accountability) while we reap the downsides (incompetent leadership). Have a good day!