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In Canadian burning man discussion groups, consensus is pretty much that no one is going this year due to the tariff war (well that and criticism of the nonprof

In Canadian burning man discussion groups, consensus is pretty much that no one is going this year due to the tariff war (well that and criticism of the nonprofit that organizes it) . Out of hundreds who chimed in on the discussion threads, only one said they'd still go this year. Many people I know have also cancelled travel plans and bookings. There are definitely some undeniable changes in how we're spedning our vacation time.

facile3232 2y ago
The tariff war? Not concerns about being detained?
- blitzar 2y ago
  If another country declares war on you, even if the bullets are tarrifs, its unlikely you would want to go visit them.
  - facile3232 2y ago
    If a country declares war on an individual something has gone deeply wrong. But, the idea of tariffs being anywhere near as bad as harassing visitors is ridiculous. That's a whole nother level of violation. Canada should just be happy someone's talking about them and they didn't even have to move to LA to make it happen.
- xxs 2y ago
  Not wanting to spend money there likely comes 1st, being sent to an adventurous free trip South is an extra bonus.
theshrike79 2y ago
Time to start the Canadian version: Freezing Man!
- nathancahill 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_Dead_Guy_Days https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_Dead_Guy_Days
- pcthrowaway 2y ago
  You joke, but the Alberta regional is called Freezer Burn - https://www.freezerburn.org/ https://www.freezerburn.org/
lynx97 2y ago
Well, given Burning Man has grown so big that it is becoming a turn-off for some, and the chaos of people getting stuck for days last year (or was it the year before that), I wonder if the real reason for people deciding to not go this time is really tariff wars, or if that is more of a scapegoat.
- CaptainZapp 2y ago
  I'm not so sure: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/27/canada-us-flights-down-trump https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/27/canada-us-flig... "Airline travel between Canada and the US is “collapsing” amid Donald Trump’s tariff war, with flight bookings between the two countries down by over 70%, newly released data suggests."
  - lynx97 2y ago
    Ahh, I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the link!
kzrdude 2y ago
I guess you include the claims of "Canada is not a legitimate country" and "We will annex you" in the tariff war bracket. Those are the most pointed and serious policies that seem to have hurt the Canada-US relations the most. I think we need to mention them separately, so that it's understood by everyone.
rbanffy 2y ago
I wonder if Burning Man could be temporarily moved to Canada... Its ethos is much better aligned with Canadian attitudes anyway.
- pcthrowaway 2y ago
  We already have burns here. Even if you could organize one with space for 100,000 people, it wouldn't be the same. For one, due to fire bans an effigy burn would be unlikely. And it wouldn't be in the desert which is a big part of it. I'm not at all against the idea of another 7-day burn with a different name as an alternative to burning man though. Host it in BC where drugs are decriminalized and it'll probably be a lot safer for people too (in terms of legal repercussions).
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facile3232 2y ago

The tariff war? Not concerns about being detained?

blitzar 2y ago
If another country declares war on you, even if the bullets are tarrifs, its unlikely you would want to go visit them.
- facile3232 2y ago
  If a country declares war on an individual something has gone deeply wrong. But, the idea of tariffs being anywhere near as bad as harassing visitors is ridiculous. That's a whole nother level of violation. Canada should just be happy someone's talking about them and they didn't even have to move to LA to make it happen.
xxs 2y ago
Not wanting to spend money there likely comes 1st, being sent to an adventurous free trip South is an extra bonus.

theshrike79 2y ago

Time to start the Canadian version: Freezing Man!

nathancahill 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_Dead_Guy_Days https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_Dead_Guy_Days
pcthrowaway 2y ago
You joke, but the Alberta regional is called Freezer Burn - https://www.freezerburn.org/ https://www.freezerburn.org/

lynx97 2y ago

Well, given Burning Man has grown so big that it is becoming a turn-off for some, and the chaos of people getting stuck for days last year (or was it the year before that), I wonder if the real reason for people deciding to not go this time is really tariff wars, or if that is more of a scapegoat.

CaptainZapp 2y ago
I'm not so sure: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/27/canada-us-flights-down-trump https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/27/canada-us-flig... "Airline travel between Canada and the US is “collapsing” amid Donald Trump’s tariff war, with flight bookings between the two countries down by over 70%, newly released data suggests."
- lynx97 2y ago
  Ahh, I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the link!

kzrdude 2y ago

I guess you include the claims of "Canada is not a legitimate country" and "We will annex you" in the tariff war bracket. Those are the most pointed and serious policies that seem to have hurt the Canada-US relations the most. I think we need to mention them separately, so that it's understood by everyone.

rbanffy 2y ago

I wonder if Burning Man could be temporarily moved to Canada... Its ethos is much better aligned with Canadian attitudes anyway.

pcthrowaway 2y ago
We already have burns here. Even if you could organize one with space for 100,000 people, it wouldn't be the same. For one, due to fire bans an effigy burn would be unlikely. And it wouldn't be in the desert which is a big part of it. I'm not at all against the idea of another 7-day burn with a different name as an alternative to burning man though. Host it in BC where drugs are decriminalized and it'll probably be a lot safer for people too (in terms of legal repercussions).
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