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I am not talking "internationally". Within the UK and European context, The Guardian is left-wing and has many very left-wing columnists. Do read the public com
by mytailorisrich 2y ago
I am not talking "internationally". Within the UK and European context, The Guardian is left-wing and has many very left-wing columnists. Do read the public comments on articles, and you'll see this is the readership, too (at least the "vocal" ones, perhaps).
Sure overall it is not as left-wing as, say, Le Monde Diplomatique in France (someone mentioned it in another comment) but still.
Overall, Wikipedia is quite accurate: "The paper's readership is generally on the mainstream left of British political opinion, and the term "Guardian reader" is used to imply a stereotype of a person with modern progressive, left-wing or "politically correct" views." [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian
- oneeyedpigeon 2y agoI live in the UK and this is simply not true. The Guardian is left-wing, for sure, in the sense that it is left of center. But it is not generally regarded as "very left-wing", nor are many of its columnists. Public comments on newspaper sites are a very poor judge of the newspaper's political position. Sometimes, even Daily Mail comment threads skew left!
- mytailorisrich 2y agoI am not sure what is your disagreement, then? It is left-wing, you agree. They do have very left-wing columnists, too, quite a few of them, most famous being Owen Jones.
- FabHK 2y agoNobody said "very" left-wing. Nobody seems to disagree that it is left-wing.
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y agoFrom the GP: > The Guardian is left-wing and has many very left-wing columnists. Sure there's some subtle distinction between the paper itself being one thing but still having "many very left-wing columnists", but not a lot.
- FabHK 2y agoAh, missed that. Sorry.
- mytailorisrich 2y agoIs this what it has come to? Trying to twist every single word as much as possible against their author in the least honest way possible? I stand with what you quoted. This was a honest and rather matter-of-fact statement... But I obviously deserver to be shot for it by the "progressists" it has somehow managed to offend.
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y agoThe author of what I quoted seems to have reacted to it differently than you are doing. Or perhaps even very differently ...
- mytailorisrich 2y agoYes, clearly I would not have survived the Red Guards.
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y agoCould you please name one of these "very left-wing columnists" ? Or maybe two, since you claim it has "many" of them? Owen Jones is perhaps as close as they come to "very left-wing", and while he is a bona fide socialist, he's certainly not a revolutionary.