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Cool! I guess there needs to be a way for people to share new lessons to practise, it gets complicated with copyright pretty fast. For real "lessons" you'd pro

Cool! I guess there needs to be a way for people to share new lessons to practise, it gets complicated with copyright pretty fast. For real "lessons" you'd probably need to start at chord progressions, go into scales and how the chords relate back to those, then move to these types of soloing technique lessons. AlphaTab is the star here https://github.com/CoderLine/alphaTab https://github.com/CoderLine/alphaTab - it's been maintained tirelessly for years by Daniel Kuschny. I've started to build this type of lessons sitea few times in the past and never really got it together enough to release anything. I've done scale/chord/arpeggio tools: https://github.com/webprofusion/scalex https://github.com/webprofusion/scalex

zozbot234 2y ago
What do you need "scales" practice for on guitar? It's a totally relative instrument except when playing on empty strings, so there's only one "scale" pattern that you have to learn. It's nothing like a keyboard!
- compiler-guy 2y ago
  There are dozens of scales to learn, with roots all over the fretboard. Each useful for different things. Just the basic minor pentatonic requires five different patterns. Eight note scales require eight different patterns, with various roots depending on the mode you want to play. The Guitar Grimoirr scale book is 200 pages!
  - card_zero 2y ago
    Yeah, this is about modes, really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music)
  - zozbot234 2y ago
    By "pattern" you mean starting the scale on a different note/step? (or, equivalently, rolling the interval arrangement and ending up with one that's seemingly "different"?) That seems like a trivial change - if you can play C-D-E-F etc. you can play D-E-F etc. Why does it have to be "learned" separately?
    - d1sxeyes 2y ago
      They don’t really need to be learned differently. They do need to be practised though.
    - card_zero 2y ago
      No, there are different scales. For a start, you can play a minor scale instead of a major one, or you can play a chromatic one (all the notes, a semitone at a time). Sticking to the notes of a scale when playing a melody is playing in a particular mode, for instance the pentatonic scale is a blues mode. Several modes are from ancient Greece and create strange stiff-sounding moods. I can't claim great consciousness of the mode/scale used in any familiar songs (other than the pentatonic), but this is a thing and it goes on a lot. Popular in the technical end of thrash metal. Edit: the minor scale doesn't count because C major = A minor if you start on A, fair enough, forget that one.
      - zozbot234 2y ago
        > the minor scale doesn't count because C major = A minor if you start on A, fair enough, forget that one. It might actually count since the harmonic minor exists. But this is just stressing the point that all of those "separate" scales might perhaps be best introduced as simple variations of the usual diatonic scale. Then sure, you might want to practice them a little bit, but at least you should have "learned" them in that you are not wondering what you're supposed to play.
        card_zero 2y ago
        Even though they don't all have seven notes? (Why is a seven-note scale called "diatonic" anyway, that should mean a scale of two notes, doesn't sound very exciting.)
        moefh 2y ago
        > Why is a seven-note scale called "diatonic" anyway The prefix of "diatonic" is "dia" ("through"), not "di" ("two"), but nobody really knows what exactly its origin (διάτονος, "diátonos") was supposed to mean[1]: it's probably either something like "through the tones" or "stretched out tones". The second meaning is closer to the modern definition we have for diatonic: the 7 (out of 12) notes are selected to be as stretched out as possible in the octave, that is, each adjacent note is either 1 or 2 semitones apart, and the two 1-semitone-apart pairs are as far as possible from each other (note that the second requirement excludes e.g. the ascending melodic minor[2] from being considered diatonic, even though it has 7 notes). [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/diatonic https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/diatonic [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_minor_scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_minor_scale
- markovs_gun 2y ago
  Scales are definitely important. Building up the reflexes to just play a scale at a given point helps a lot especially when playing with other people.
- scythe 2y ago
  Scale patterns on a guitar are optimized for A: starting (lowest note 1) on a particular finger on a particular string and B: not sliding your hand up and down too much. For example, I know five major scale patterns: two start on the first string, two on the second, and one on the third.
- nathan_douglas 2y ago
  Blues scales, various jazz scales, scales influenced by ragas or the countless other music traditions from around the world, microtonal scales, nonstandard tunings like fifths/DADGAD/DADF#A, scales with different fingering and picking patterns to increase movement speed in different directions, scales that are adjusted to use or avoid open strings because of the effects on ornamentation/drones/other techniques, scales that include sweeping sections or are entirely composed of sweeping arpeggios, etc.
- thatcat 2y ago
  Yea you can play the scales at any starting position to change the root note and the scale remains the same fret spacing as if you started with an open string, only now it starts at the fret you chose for the root. See 'fretboard logic' for more info.
- bigbacaloa 2y ago
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naiquevin 2y ago
Captrice allows you to export an exercise collection. You get a json file that can be shared with others or copied to another device where it can be imported back into the app. > AlphaTab is the star here Absolutely! High quality stuff. I wasn't aware of the person behind the project. Thanks for mentioning it.

zozbot234 2y ago

What do you need "scales" practice for on guitar? It's a totally relative instrument except when playing on empty strings, so there's only one "scale" pattern that you have to learn. It's nothing like a keyboard!

compiler-guy 2y ago
There are dozens of scales to learn, with roots all over the fretboard. Each useful for different things. Just the basic minor pentatonic requires five different patterns. Eight note scales require eight different patterns, with various roots depending on the mode you want to play. The Guitar Grimoirr scale book is 200 pages!
- card_zero 2y ago
  Yeah, this is about modes, really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music)
- zozbot234 2y ago
  By "pattern" you mean starting the scale on a different note/step? (or, equivalently, rolling the interval arrangement and ending up with one that's seemingly "different"?) That seems like a trivial change - if you can play C-D-E-F etc. you can play D-E-F etc. Why does it have to be "learned" separately?
  - d1sxeyes 2y ago
    They don’t really need to be learned differently. They do need to be practised though.
  - card_zero 2y ago
    No, there are different scales. For a start, you can play a minor scale instead of a major one, or you can play a chromatic one (all the notes, a semitone at a time). Sticking to the notes of a scale when playing a melody is playing in a particular mode, for instance the pentatonic scale is a blues mode. Several modes are from ancient Greece and create strange stiff-sounding moods. I can't claim great consciousness of the mode/scale used in any familiar songs (other than the pentatonic), but this is a thing and it goes on a lot. Popular in the technical end of thrash metal. Edit: the minor scale doesn't count because C major = A minor if you start on A, fair enough, forget that one.
    - zozbot234 2y ago
      > the minor scale doesn't count because C major = A minor if you start on A, fair enough, forget that one. It might actually count since the harmonic minor exists. But this is just stressing the point that all of those "separate" scales might perhaps be best introduced as simple variations of the usual diatonic scale. Then sure, you might want to practice them a little bit, but at least you should have "learned" them in that you are not wondering what you're supposed to play.
      - card_zero 2y ago
        Even though they don't all have seven notes? (Why is a seven-note scale called "diatonic" anyway, that should mean a scale of two notes, doesn't sound very exciting.)
        moefh 2y ago
        > Why is a seven-note scale called "diatonic" anyway The prefix of "diatonic" is "dia" ("through"), not "di" ("two"), but nobody really knows what exactly its origin (διάτονος, "diátonos") was supposed to mean[1]: it's probably either something like "through the tones" or "stretched out tones". The second meaning is closer to the modern definition we have for diatonic: the 7 (out of 12) notes are selected to be as stretched out as possible in the octave, that is, each adjacent note is either 1 or 2 semitones apart, and the two 1-semitone-apart pairs are as far as possible from each other (note that the second requirement excludes e.g. the ascending melodic minor[2] from being considered diatonic, even though it has 7 notes). [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/diatonic https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/diatonic [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_minor_scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_minor_scale
markovs_gun 2y ago
Scales are definitely important. Building up the reflexes to just play a scale at a given point helps a lot especially when playing with other people.
scythe 2y ago
Scale patterns on a guitar are optimized for A: starting (lowest note 1) on a particular finger on a particular string and B: not sliding your hand up and down too much. For example, I know five major scale patterns: two start on the first string, two on the second, and one on the third.
nathan_douglas 2y ago
Blues scales, various jazz scales, scales influenced by ragas or the countless other music traditions from around the world, microtonal scales, nonstandard tunings like fifths/DADGAD/DADF#A, scales with different fingering and picking patterns to increase movement speed in different directions, scales that are adjusted to use or avoid open strings because of the effects on ornamentation/drones/other techniques, scales that include sweeping sections or are entirely composed of sweeping arpeggios, etc.
thatcat 2y ago
Yea you can play the scales at any starting position to change the root note and the scale remains the same fret spacing as if you started with an open string, only now it starts at the fret you chose for the root. See 'fretboard logic' for more info.
bigbacaloa 2y ago
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naiquevin 2y ago

Captrice allows you to export an exercise collection. You get a json file that can be shared with others or copied to another device where it can be imported back into the app. > AlphaTab is the star here Absolutely! High quality stuff. I wasn't aware of the person behind the project. Thanks for mentioning it.