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Well, what did you expect? And what happened to "we're deporting criminals"? Not only are they deporting non-criminals, they're sending them to a prison camp in

Well, what did you expect? And what happened to "we're deporting criminals"? Not only are they deporting non-criminals, they're sending them to a prison camp in El Salvador! That's not deportation! This is exactly why we have the due process this administration is intent on violating. How soon until we start snatching up citizens in the same way?

jshier 2y ago
That's the point, test the will of the people by "accidentally", though completely predictably, sending citizens to El Salvador for literally nothing, then move on to the admin's real enemies if the outcry isn't loud enough.
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  He isn't a US citizen, he did have protected status and, if ever deported, was not supposed to be deported to El Salvador. He fled it in 2011 to escape gangs.
  - voxl 2y ago
    Citizenship is completely irrelevant. Due process applies to all persons on US soil, full stop. Without due process you are unable to even demonstrate citizenship to a judge, making the ICE member that dislikes you judge, jury, and executioner.
    - Jtsummers 2y ago
      > Citizenship is completely irrelevant. I was responding to this: >> test the will of the people by "accidentally", though completely predictably, sending citizens to El Salvador for literally nothing What's happened here shouldn't have happened, but we should focus on the facts and not add embellishments.
      - yawpitch 2y ago
        That isn’t an embellishment, it is, I’d say rather obviously, a statement about the next domino to fall. A domino that has most likely already fallen.
weird-eye-issue 2y ago
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- anon7000 2y ago
  But, importantly, you wouldn’t be sent straight to jail when you get detained and deported, and you should get due process to ensure you were actually in the wrong.
  - weird-eye-issue 2y ago
    You are wrong. You do get sent straight to detention and the conditions there are terrible. Then they take you from detention and escort you to the plane for deportation. And that's if you're lucky and you're able to pay the fees and for the deportation flight. There are some people who get stuck in the detention for months and even years Under no circumstances would they just let you out and hope you show up to court like they do in the US If that sounds ridiculous just Google it, there's plenty of evidence to back it up including a really recent report where somebody smuggled in a phone to take pictures of the terrible conditions Example: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14303933/brit-tourist-thai-prison-conditions-filthy.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14303933/brit-touri... https://www.ladbible.com/news/world-news/thailand-laws-explained-overstaying-visa-ellis-matthews-518364-20250317 https://www.ladbible.com/news/world-news/thailand-laws-expla...
- nielsbot 2y ago
  He wasn't in the country illegally. So, what's the crime? Don't you think it's dangerous to not just deport legal immigrants but to send them to a prison camp for hire in El Salvador which is run by a Trump sycophant? FWIW: It is legal to seek asylum under US and international law. Not to mention the cruelty, bigotry and racism behind this all. Immigrants are the strength of the US. They contribute to our culture, population, and economy while getting little in return, relatively speaking.
  - weird-eye-issue 2y ago
    According to court documents he was in MS-13
boothby 2y ago
The most terrifying part of the administration's theory is that the president should have unilateral and unchecked authority over who is allowed to be in the country. As tiring as it is to see so much of American politics here, we need to be shouting from the rooftops. This cannot continue. Things have gone entirely too far and Trump is just getting started.
pas 2y ago
How soon? -2 weeks? https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/03/13/chicago-attorneys-accuse-federal-agents-of-violating-immigrants-rights-and-take-legal-action https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/03/13/chicago-attorney... https://www.aclu-il.org/en/press-releases/22-people-arrested-ice-raids-announce-federal-court-action-challenging-unlawful https://www.aclu-il.org/en/press-releases/22-people-arrested...
- gorbachev 2y ago
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-raid-newark-new-jersey-trump-b2685888.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... They sent the brown shirts to New Jersey to arrest anyone brown. If you didn't have your papers with you, they arrested you, citizen or not. If you were white, you were ok obviously.
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briandear 2y ago
This guy was an MS13 member: https://x.com/sonofhas/status/1906906503111676278?s=46 https://x.com/sonofhas/status/1906906503111676278?s=46
- sonotathrowaway 2y ago
  You’re an ms-13 member, actually.
- UncleMeat 2y ago
  United Center has a capacity of 23,500 MS-13 members apparently.

jshier 2y ago

That's the point, test the will of the people by "accidentally", though completely predictably, sending citizens to El Salvador for literally nothing, then move on to the admin's real enemies if the outcry isn't loud enough.

Jtsummers 2y ago
He isn't a US citizen, he did have protected status and, if ever deported, was not supposed to be deported to El Salvador. He fled it in 2011 to escape gangs.
- voxl 2y ago
  Citizenship is completely irrelevant. Due process applies to all persons on US soil, full stop. Without due process you are unable to even demonstrate citizenship to a judge, making the ICE member that dislikes you judge, jury, and executioner.
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    > Citizenship is completely irrelevant. I was responding to this: >> test the will of the people by "accidentally", though completely predictably, sending citizens to El Salvador for literally nothing What's happened here shouldn't have happened, but we should focus on the facts and not add embellishments.
    - yawpitch 2y ago
      That isn’t an embellishment, it is, I’d say rather obviously, a statement about the next domino to fall. A domino that has most likely already fallen.

weird-eye-issue 2y ago

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anon7000 2y ago
But, importantly, you wouldn’t be sent straight to jail when you get detained and deported, and you should get due process to ensure you were actually in the wrong.
- weird-eye-issue 2y ago
  You are wrong. You do get sent straight to detention and the conditions there are terrible. Then they take you from detention and escort you to the plane for deportation. And that's if you're lucky and you're able to pay the fees and for the deportation flight. There are some people who get stuck in the detention for months and even years Under no circumstances would they just let you out and hope you show up to court like they do in the US If that sounds ridiculous just Google it, there's plenty of evidence to back it up including a really recent report where somebody smuggled in a phone to take pictures of the terrible conditions Example: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14303933/brit-tourist-thai-prison-conditions-filthy.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14303933/brit-touri... https://www.ladbible.com/news/world-news/thailand-laws-explained-overstaying-visa-ellis-matthews-518364-20250317 https://www.ladbible.com/news/world-news/thailand-laws-expla...
nielsbot 2y ago
He wasn't in the country illegally. So, what's the crime? Don't you think it's dangerous to not just deport legal immigrants but to send them to a prison camp for hire in El Salvador which is run by a Trump sycophant? FWIW: It is legal to seek asylum under US and international law. Not to mention the cruelty, bigotry and racism behind this all. Immigrants are the strength of the US. They contribute to our culture, population, and economy while getting little in return, relatively speaking.
- weird-eye-issue 2y ago
  According to court documents he was in MS-13

boothby 2y ago

The most terrifying part of the administration's theory is that the president should have unilateral and unchecked authority over who is allowed to be in the country. As tiring as it is to see so much of American politics here, we need to be shouting from the rooftops. This cannot continue. Things have gone entirely too far and Trump is just getting started.

pas 2y ago

How soon? -2 weeks? https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/03/13/chicago-attorneys-accuse-federal-agents-of-violating-immigrants-rights-and-take-legal-action https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/03/13/chicago-attorney... https://www.aclu-il.org/en/press-releases/22-people-arrested-ice-raids-announce-federal-court-action-challenging-unlawful https://www.aclu-il.org/en/press-releases/22-people-arrested...

gorbachev 2y ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-raid-newark-new-jersey-trump-b2685888.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... They sent the brown shirts to New Jersey to arrest anyone brown. If you didn't have your papers with you, they arrested you, citizen or not. If you were white, you were ok obviously.

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briandear 2y ago

This guy was an MS13 member: https://x.com/sonofhas/status/1906906503111676278?s=46 https://x.com/sonofhas/status/1906906503111676278?s=46

sonotathrowaway 2y ago
You’re an ms-13 member, actually.
UncleMeat 2y ago
United Center has a capacity of 23,500 MS-13 members apparently.