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the people who are qualified to work on the frontier of AI research are people with PhDs from leading universities who spend 80% of their day on arxiv reading C

the people who are qualified to work on the frontier of AI research are people with PhDs from leading universities who spend 80% of their day on arxiv reading CS papers, they don't learn about AI from Ghibli art on twitter. That's bread and circus for the masses. There's no correlation between who consumes that stuff and who builds the technology, if anything, the opposite. Leading edge chip designers at TSMC didn't end up there because they ended up playing graphic intensive video games

ketzo 2y ago
I just think you’re totally wrong about that, to be honest. It’s very strange to me to paint every AI researcher as an unfeeling robot who does nothing but read PDFs, who’s not remotely interested in how their work will ever be used by real people. No, frontier model researchers are not learning about the concept of AI from Twitter. But it’s one more piece of visibility, one more sense of “hey this company is actually doing stuff with their models,” that absolutely contributes to where these insanely in-demand people choose to do their work. > Leading edge chip designers at TSMC didn't end up there because they ended up playing graphic intensive video games What a baffling and wrong example! I mean, I guess I don’t know about TSMC specifically, but tons and tons of technologists have an origin story that rhymes with “I was really into computer games, then got curious how they worked” This is my whole point: engineers are real people, and real people are fascinated by the uses of AI!
anigbrowl 2y ago
That's the people who can be hired and get paid big bucks right now. The comment is referencing people who might be inspired to start learning this stuff seriously. Leading edge chip designers at TSMC didn't end up there because they ended up playing graphic intensive video games Kind of a large assumption. I find it quite plausible that enjoying video games as a kid might lead to someone studying engineering as opposed to medicine or finance.
saagarjha 2y ago
The people who work at frontier AI labs are sending around Ghiblified pictures of themselves like everyone else (except on Signal).

ketzo 2y ago

I just think you’re totally wrong about that, to be honest. It’s very strange to me to paint every AI researcher as an unfeeling robot who does nothing but read PDFs, who’s not remotely interested in how their work will ever be used by real people. No, frontier model researchers are not learning about the concept of AI from Twitter. But it’s one more piece of visibility, one more sense of “hey this company is actually doing stuff with their models,” that absolutely contributes to where these insanely in-demand people choose to do their work. > Leading edge chip designers at TSMC didn't end up there because they ended up playing graphic intensive video games What a baffling and wrong example! I mean, I guess I don’t know about TSMC specifically, but tons and tons of technologists have an origin story that rhymes with “I was really into computer games, then got curious how they worked” This is my whole point: engineers are real people, and real people are fascinated by the uses of AI!

anigbrowl 2y ago

That's the people who can be hired and get paid big bucks right now. The comment is referencing people who might be inspired to start learning this stuff seriously. Leading edge chip designers at TSMC didn't end up there because they ended up playing graphic intensive video games Kind of a large assumption. I find it quite plausible that enjoying video games as a kid might lead to someone studying engineering as opposed to medicine or finance.

saagarjha 2y ago

The people who work at frontier AI labs are sending around Ghiblified pictures of themselves like everyone else (except on Signal).