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Manufacturing what though? Certainly not technology. We know they're not trying to build their own compute clouds to compete with AWS or Microsoft. Or OpenAI

Manufacturing what though? Certainly not technology. We know they're not trying to build their own compute clouds to compete with AWS or Microsoft. Or OpenAI. They're not even trying to compete with Nvidia. The EU's entire productive economy is stuff like cheese, VW cars, and perfumes.

mrcode007 2y ago
You’re forgetting prime brokers financing most of the US financial players on wall street Societe generale BNP paribas UBS+Credit Suisse Deutsche bank Lets also not forget Ubisoft (French company) making assassins creed etc games And airbus making planes ?
cycomanic 2y ago
Not sure if you're trolling or seriously underinformed. Firstly, since when is building compute clouds manufacturing? More to the point though, a large portion of manufacturing machinery is in fact build in Germany and the Netherlands (ASML is probably the most famous example, but others include Festo, Bosch ...), you'll find hardly an advanced production line which doesn't run on machines build in Europe. Interestingly most of the companies behind this are smaller size businesses, it seems like the European business sphere does not tend so much toward large corporates (although I could be wrong here, I have not seen any statistics).
toomuchtodo 2y ago
The EU is a greater share of global manufacturing than the US [1]. Are you comparing real manufacturing to cloud/search providers, GPUs, and generative AI that has shown questionable value? Airbus has an order book ~11 years long and Boeing is hanging on by a thread. Rheinmetall, Germany's largest defense company, is worth more than VW (as mentioned in this piece). The giga press hardware manufactured for Tesla was built by Idra Group in Italy. I somewhat chuckle at the idea that they should be spitting out GPUs instead of electric vehicles, defense hardware, and aircraft (both civilian and military). [1] https://www.brookings.edu/articles/global-manufacturing-scorecard-how-the-us-compares-to-18-other-nations/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/global-manufacturing-scor...
anigbrowl 2y ago
This is like someone saying the US economy consists of junk food and t-shirts. Why post such ignorant comments, when you could take a few minutes to inform yourself instead of looking foolish.
- VWWHFSfQ 2y ago
  What is foolish? We know that the EU is entirely sustained by Russia, USA, and China. Nearly all the energy, technology, and everything else.
  - anigbrowl 2y ago
    No we don't. It seems you were only pretending to inquire as a cover for pushing a particular (false) idea.

mrcode007 2y ago

You’re forgetting prime brokers financing most of the US financial players on wall street Societe generale BNP paribas UBS+Credit Suisse Deutsche bank Lets also not forget Ubisoft (French company) making assassins creed etc games And airbus making planes ?

cycomanic 2y ago

Not sure if you're trolling or seriously underinformed. Firstly, since when is building compute clouds manufacturing? More to the point though, a large portion of manufacturing machinery is in fact build in Germany and the Netherlands (ASML is probably the most famous example, but others include Festo, Bosch ...), you'll find hardly an advanced production line which doesn't run on machines build in Europe. Interestingly most of the companies behind this are smaller size businesses, it seems like the European business sphere does not tend so much toward large corporates (although I could be wrong here, I have not seen any statistics).

toomuchtodo 2y ago

The EU is a greater share of global manufacturing than the US [1]. Are you comparing real manufacturing to cloud/search providers, GPUs, and generative AI that has shown questionable value? Airbus has an order book ~11 years long and Boeing is hanging on by a thread. Rheinmetall, Germany's largest defense company, is worth more than VW (as mentioned in this piece). The giga press hardware manufactured for Tesla was built by Idra Group in Italy. I somewhat chuckle at the idea that they should be spitting out GPUs instead of electric vehicles, defense hardware, and aircraft (both civilian and military). [1] https://www.brookings.edu/articles/global-manufacturing-scorecard-how-the-us-compares-to-18-other-nations/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/global-manufacturing-scor...

anigbrowl 2y ago

This is like someone saying the US economy consists of junk food and t-shirts. Why post such ignorant comments, when you could take a few minutes to inform yourself instead of looking foolish.

VWWHFSfQ 2y ago
What is foolish? We know that the EU is entirely sustained by Russia, USA, and China. Nearly all the energy, technology, and everything else.
- anigbrowl 2y ago
  No we don't. It seems you were only pretending to inquire as a cover for pushing a particular (false) idea.