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>they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc Do the luddites opinions not count?

• vntok 2y ago
  To the tech sector's asking for input to help shape their vision? I would guess they don't.
  • lawlessone 2y ago
    I just don't think a word predictor is the future of AI. It seems like a sloppy way to simulate intelligence.
• vessenes 2y ago
  Well traditionally you're supposed to make them count if you're on the luddite side.
  • vntok 2y ago
    First step: don't talk to them, (one of you might get convinced)
• wewtyflakes 2y ago
  If you have a business selling hamburgers, does it make sense to ask vegetarians what should be on it?
  • kopecs 2y ago
    I would think it makes some amount of sense if you think they're vegetarian for some moral reason and you think you could court them to become customers.
    • pests 2y ago
      But why target a market that doesn't want you? Do you really think a burger place can some how override a person's morals to not eat meet? I realize were stretching the analogy here, but what is the point? Maybe if you already saturated the existing market and trying to grow. But then why saddle that market with the wants/needs of the polar opposite?
  • 9rx 2y ago
    Given that they come in good faith (trolling is already excepted), I would ask. Burger toppings are predominately plant-based, so perfectly in their wheelhouse. In fact, I'd expect better suggestions from them than the average burger eater.
    • wewtyflakes 2y ago
      This seems like a stretch. Another example may be, "If I am throwing a party, should I ask people that I do not invite, what they want?". Sure you could say that they could approximate the wants of the people who _are_ going, but why not just ask the people who are going, directly? It's just noise, otherwise.
      • 9rx 2y ago
        > why not just ask the people who are going, directly? "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses" You don't poll people to find out what they want. You poll people to gather their ideas. Ideas that you can then leverage to deliver what your intended audience wants, even when they didn't know that they wanted it! If we assume this party you are throwing has 10 guests, you think you're going to get all the best ideas from those 10 specific people and nothing from the hundreds of people you could have asked? Maybe if you're throwing a party for professional party planners, but otherwise...
        • wewtyflakes 2y ago
          I think asking 10 people instead of 8 billion people is a more reasonable way to discover the preferences of those 10 people. That is not to say there is not interesting information at the margin, but it is the margin.
          • 9rx 2y ago
            Why not ask the 10 people and 8 billion other people? The 10 people might have good ideas too, but no need to rely on them entirely. Most especially when you are OpenAI and can throw your language models at finding the useful information found in those 8 billion responses. The artificial divide you are trying to create is unnecessary and not a reflection of the real world. Most people will gather input from as far as wide as they can. They might not be able to operate at anything close to OpenAI scale, but even Average Joe will turn to random strangers (e.g. on Facebook or Reddit) to get party ideas.
• stale2002 2y ago
  If their plan is to sabotage things, then no their opinions should not count.