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Considering the sheer foolishness of in the first place having trusted their most intimate biological data to the parasitic opportunism of a modern Silicon Vall

Considering the sheer foolishness of in the first place having trusted their most intimate biological data to the parasitic opportunism of a modern Silicon Valley (okay, South San Francisco, but same basic idea) tech company, i'm almost tempted to say that worried DNA holders had it coming.

stevula 2y ago
Of course, if your relatives uploaded their data then a lot of info about your DNA is exposed regardless of whether you uploaded yours personally.
- nirav72 2y ago
  Wasn’t a cold case solved and a serial killer was caught based on family genetic data?
  - southernplaces7 2y ago
    Yes, the Golden State killer. Noteworthy for some here claiming DNA data is "worthless"
astrange 2y ago
There is nothing "intimate" about your DNA, especially not the SNP form of it they store. You literally leave it everywhere you go. You can tell it's worthless because the company is bankrupt!
- southernplaces7 2y ago
  >There is nothing "intimate" about your DNA, especially not the SNP form of it they store. You literally leave it everywhere you go. Wow there. There's plenty intimate about your DNA and all the stuff in it that some shitty insurance company, for example, could use to justify screwing you. And the other obvious thing: sure you leave it all over the place, but generally, nobody follows you specifically around to vacuum it up for analysis and ID-tagged categorization. Having it handy in the databases of 23&Me, tied directly to you as a specific person and sold to third parties on the other hand....
  - astrange 2y ago
    > Wow there. There's plenty intimate about your DNA and all the stuff in it that some shitty insurance company, for example, could use to justify screwing you. No there isn't. The reason 23AndMe is bankrupt is /that stuff isn't real/ and it doesn't work. If you've ever actually gotten life insurance though, you'll remember they have you do a nurse visit with a blood draw first. That gives them far more information about you than your SNPs. This specific scenario is illegal though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrimination_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrim... > And the other obvious thing: sure you leave it all over the place, but generally, nobody follows you specifically around to vacuum it up for analysis and ID-tagged categorization. There's no "analysis" or "categorization" you can do that's real, because correlation isn't causation. Again, that's literally why they're bankrupt. 23AndMe tried to work around this by having people do a lot of health research for free by taking thousands of surveys to provide actually useful data points, but even with that additional info it didn't produce anything.

stevula 2y ago

Of course, if your relatives uploaded their data then a lot of info about your DNA is exposed regardless of whether you uploaded yours personally.

nirav72 2y ago
Wasn’t a cold case solved and a serial killer was caught based on family genetic data?
- southernplaces7 2y ago
  Yes, the Golden State killer. Noteworthy for some here claiming DNA data is "worthless"

astrange 2y ago

There is nothing "intimate" about your DNA, especially not the SNP form of it they store. You literally leave it everywhere you go. You can tell it's worthless because the company is bankrupt!

southernplaces7 2y ago
>There is nothing "intimate" about your DNA, especially not the SNP form of it they store. You literally leave it everywhere you go. Wow there. There's plenty intimate about your DNA and all the stuff in it that some shitty insurance company, for example, could use to justify screwing you. And the other obvious thing: sure you leave it all over the place, but generally, nobody follows you specifically around to vacuum it up for analysis and ID-tagged categorization. Having it handy in the databases of 23&Me, tied directly to you as a specific person and sold to third parties on the other hand....
- astrange 2y ago
  > Wow there. There's plenty intimate about your DNA and all the stuff in it that some shitty insurance company, for example, could use to justify screwing you. No there isn't. The reason 23AndMe is bankrupt is /that stuff isn't real/ and it doesn't work. If you've ever actually gotten life insurance though, you'll remember they have you do a nurse visit with a blood draw first. That gives them far more information about you than your SNPs. This specific scenario is illegal though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrimination_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information_Nondiscrim... > And the other obvious thing: sure you leave it all over the place, but generally, nobody follows you specifically around to vacuum it up for analysis and ID-tagged categorization. There's no "analysis" or "categorization" you can do that's real, because correlation isn't causation. Again, that's literally why they're bankrupt. 23AndMe tried to work around this by having people do a lot of health research for free by taking thousands of surveys to provide actually useful data points, but even with that additional info it didn't produce anything.