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What? Scare the criminals breaking the law using drugs? Kinda what Cops are supposed to do? Should they say “please stop breaking the law” ?

givemeethekeys 2y ago
The cops will enforce the laws. I'm talking about the lawmakers - decriminalization failed repealed because Oregon failed at stopping cartels. Whats the point of decriminalizing if it won't achieve the goal of reducing drug use? In order to stop drugs, you have to either kill supply, demand, or both.
- Spivak 2y ago
  > if it won't achieve the goal of reducing drug use? If they tried decriminalization with the specific goal of reducing drug use then uhh yeah that was doomed from the start. You decriminalize certain drugs because you want to reduce possession/use arrests and view the treatment as worse than the disease. Arrests for use/possession serve one important function for people which is getting users out of public view even if it doesn't reduce drug use or work at all to get people off them. And Oregon found out how many people value clean streets at the expense of drug users. Can't really blame them.
- 9x39 2y ago
  I don't think the goal was to reduce drug use, it was to create a legal marijuana industry and reduce policing which was a broadly popular sentiment in 2020. https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_110,_Drug_Decriminalization_and_Addiction_Treatment_Initiative_(2020) https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_110,_Drug_Decriminali... I don't have a copy of the original voters pamphlet with all the pro and against arguments, but I don't recall this ever being advertised as reducing drug use. I think it did succeed in its goals of legitimizing marijuana in the state, and it did succeed in reducing police involvement in drug enforcement. Whether consequences emerged from these goals is another topic.
  - ThrowOregonAway 2y ago
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What? Scare the criminals breaking the law using drugs? Kinda what Cops are supposed to do? Should they say “please stop breaking the law” ?

by zombiwoof 2y ago

givemeethekeys 2y ago
The cops will enforce the laws. I'm talking about the lawmakers - decriminalization failed repealed because Oregon failed at stopping cartels. Whats the point of decriminalizing if it won't achieve the goal of reducing drug use? In order to stop drugs, you have to either kill supply, demand, or both.
- Spivak 2y ago
  > if it won't achieve the goal of reducing drug use? If they tried decriminalization with the specific goal of reducing drug use then uhh yeah that was doomed from the start. You decriminalize certain drugs because you want to reduce possession/use arrests and view the treatment as worse than the disease. Arrests for use/possession serve one important function for people which is getting users out of public view even if it doesn't reduce drug use or work at all to get people off them. And Oregon found out how many people value clean streets at the expense of drug users. Can't really blame them.
- 9x39 2y ago
  I don't think the goal was to reduce drug use, it was to create a legal marijuana industry and reduce policing which was a broadly popular sentiment in 2020. https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_110,_Drug_Decriminalization_and_Addiction_Treatment_Initiative_(2020) https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_110,_Drug_Decriminali... I don't have a copy of the original voters pamphlet with all the pro and against arguments, but I don't recall this ever being advertised as reducing drug use. I think it did succeed in its goals of legitimizing marijuana in the state, and it did succeed in reducing police involvement in drug enforcement. Whether consequences emerged from these goals is another topic.
  - ThrowOregonAway 2y ago
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