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Interesting concept, forcing prominent crooked far-right politicians to face the consequences of their illegal actions.
by baggachipz 2y ago
Interesting concept, forcing prominent crooked far-right politicians to face the consequences of their illegal actions.
- deepsun 2y agoBelievers just say it was cooked up, and reinforces their belief. Makes the politician a martyr, breaker of chains.
- tomrod 2y agoI'm okay with this outcome. Especially if a jury of peers reviews the evidence and stops the far right-wing (fascist) politician from further compounding crimes or marrying their criminality with state power, often abusing the rights of people a democratic government is established to protect. It is a brave thing to do, to hold popular people accountable for their actions (especially things like leaking secrets to geopolitical adversaries resulting in the deaths of intelligence personnel, or, other things like what Le Pen is guilty of), but it is necessary. Once you let it go, your country becomes ruled by authoritarians.
- deepsun 2y agoNo, when a martyr becomes popular (elected), the "jury of peers" is likely be composed of the believers as well. They are not going to hold the martyr accountable, but rather their oppressors.
- mytailorisrich 2y agoThere was no jury in this case. In France jury trials are only in "Cour d'Assises", which deals with the most serious criminal cases. Factually you can't call her or her party "fascist", either. This is really one of those terms that is over-used to an extent that is not useful at all.
- tomrod 2y agoWe should all identify far right with fascism. In every case they have taken control, they exercise authoritarianism to the point of removal of dissent -- which is a hallmark of fascism. I therefore reject your claim this is improper labeling.
- surgical_fire 2y agoI would rather have them as martyrs. Let them all be martyrs. Better than not doing anything and allowing them to become actual leaders.
- _heimdall 2y agoWould you not expect the same standard to be held for prominent politicians outside the far right?
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- pjc50 2y agoYes. I'd expect the law to apply equally. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy_corruption_trial https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy_corruption_t...
- adev_ 2y agoAnd to be fair, not even only on the right side. The left is in the same bath: https://www.france24.com/en/20170718-france-far-left-leader-melenchon-eu-parliament-funds-investigation https://www.france24.com/en/20170718-france-far-left-leader-... Since this case is making jurisprudence, the likeliness of them being convicted just become even higher.
- baggachipz 2y agoGood. Criminals should be held accountable. I can't believe there's even an argument about this. Whataboutism only breeds more criminal activity.
- leereeves 2y agoThat hasn't happened yet though, it's only a preliminary investigation.
- r00fus 2y agoThis is really just a "they're all doing it too" finger pointing from Le Pen's party. "The preliminary investigation - already targeting members of France's centrist MoDem party, conservative party The Republicans and the Socialist Party - was opened after a member of Marine Le Pen's far-right National Front asked the Paris prosecutor to look into the issue." I glad all such allegations will be investigated.