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Well first, no it’s not a hard requirement that every kid has their own separate bedroom. Sharing bedrooms for kids is a thing. Second, if you started your fam

by xienze 2y ago

Well first, no it’s not a hard requirement that every kid has their own separate bedroom. Sharing bedrooms for kids is a thing. Second, if you started your family with a three bedroom house, kids 1 and 2 (or more, with sharing) are accounted for. Third, you’re ignoring the “on top of births” point. Those immigrants who need housing TODAY are ON TOP of births, and the number never slows down. That absolutely creates massive additional housing pressure.

ben_w 2y ago
> Well first, no it’s not a hard requirement that every kid has their own separate bedroom. Sharing bedrooms for kids is a thing. Sharing with their parents? Otherwise you still have this transition. > Second, if you started your family with a three bedroom house, kids 1 and 2 (or more, with sharing) are accounted for. If. Most people don't start at that rung of the housing ladder. My parents did… but they bought in the early 70s. I started on a one-bed apartment, which I let out when I emigrated. > Third, you’re ignoring the “on top of births” point. Those immigrants who need housing TODAY are ON TOP of births, and the number never slows down. That absolutely creates massive additional housing pressure. 1M births + 1M immigrants is indeed more than just 1M births. It's also begging the question, by presuming that in the absence of immigration there's no change to births. Or emigration, or house building, or a whole bunch of other things that influence all this — Indeed, one of the jobs immigrants can be found working at, is house building. Those kids who have yet to move out, occupy rooms, and yet can't immediately contribute to building more homes.
- xienze 2y ago
  > Sharing with their parents? Otherwise you still have this transition. Why are you starting with the assumption that every family starts off as two parents living in a one bedroom apartment?

by xienze 2y ago

ben_w 2y ago

> Well first, no it’s not a hard requirement that every kid has their own separate bedroom. Sharing bedrooms for kids is a thing. Sharing with their parents? Otherwise you still have this transition. > Second, if you started your family with a three bedroom house, kids 1 and 2 (or more, with sharing) are accounted for. If. Most people don't start at that rung of the housing ladder. My parents did… but they bought in the early 70s. I started on a one-bed apartment, which I let out when I emigrated. > Third, you’re ignoring the “on top of births” point. Those immigrants who need housing TODAY are ON TOP of births, and the number never slows down. That absolutely creates massive additional housing pressure. 1M births + 1M immigrants is indeed more than just 1M births. It's also begging the question, by presuming that in the absence of immigration there's no change to births. Or emigration, or house building, or a whole bunch of other things that influence all this — Indeed, one of the jobs immigrants can be found working at, is house building. Those kids who have yet to move out, occupy rooms, and yet can't immediately contribute to building more homes.

xienze 2y ago
> Sharing with their parents? Otherwise you still have this transition. Why are you starting with the assumption that every family starts off as two parents living in a one bedroom apartment?