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> Alien visitors are entitled to all rights in the soil of the USA Except voting, firearms ownership, the ability to work, etc. What else? (* sans LPR status

by 15155 2y ago

> Alien visitors are entitled to all rights in the soil of the USA Except voting, firearms ownership, the ability to work, etc. What else? (* sans LPR status - they're not 'rights' if someone can take them away, though.) I love how "behave or go home" now equals "imprisonment." Please keep espousing this nonsense: 2028 will be fun.

piva00 2y ago
> Except voting, firearms ownership, the ability to work, etc. What else? (* sans LPR status - they're not 'rights' if someone can take them away, though.) Those are further regulated in other laws, freedom of speech is clearly defined in your Constitution to be unregulated by any laws the government shall pass. You're saying that is completely fine for the US government to regulate speech of non-citizens, rather surprising to see an American spouting this position but glad to see you clearly stand for it, ironic though it's quite anti-American to believe speech can be curtailed by the government when it fits your wants :) > Please keep espousing this nonsense: 2028 will be fun. You seem to be too compromised ideologically to have any rational discussion around this topic. Sad to see Americans subscribing to anti-freedom ideology whole-heartedly but it seems to be the way in 2025. Not very fun to watch, just quite sad to see that even on this corner of the internet where one expects more leveled discourse to have gone this way.
miracle2k 2y ago
> Please keep espousing this nonsense: 2028 will be fun. I hope our little pushback against deporting random legally present gay bakers to the foreign gulag doesn't force you to support Trump's 2028 22nd amendment violation.
testing22321 2y ago
> Except firearms ownership I was a tourist in the US and got a state ID card. In Walmart I got a photo holding an assault rifle because I was stunned. The guy said with my state ID card I could buy it right then and as much ammo as I wanted.
- 15155 2y ago
  The guy at Walmart might have been mistaken about the law (surprise?): if you are a resident you may own and purchase firearms, a tourist would not be eligible - but there's nothing stopping you from lying on forms (besides the penalty of perjury.)
  - testing22321 2y ago
    I got my state ID card because I had a 6 month tourist visa, and the state considered me a resident. They won’t give a state ID if a tourist is on the I94 90 day visa waiver.

by 15155 2y ago

piva00 2y ago

> Except voting, firearms ownership, the ability to work, etc. What else? (* sans LPR status - they're not 'rights' if someone can take them away, though.) Those are further regulated in other laws, freedom of speech is clearly defined in your Constitution to be unregulated by any laws the government shall pass. You're saying that is completely fine for the US government to regulate speech of non-citizens, rather surprising to see an American spouting this position but glad to see you clearly stand for it, ironic though it's quite anti-American to believe speech can be curtailed by the government when it fits your wants :) > Please keep espousing this nonsense: 2028 will be fun. You seem to be too compromised ideologically to have any rational discussion around this topic. Sad to see Americans subscribing to anti-freedom ideology whole-heartedly but it seems to be the way in 2025. Not very fun to watch, just quite sad to see that even on this corner of the internet where one expects more leveled discourse to have gone this way.

miracle2k 2y ago

> Please keep espousing this nonsense: 2028 will be fun. I hope our little pushback against deporting random legally present gay bakers to the foreign gulag doesn't force you to support Trump's 2028 22nd amendment violation.

testing22321 2y ago

> Except firearms ownership I was a tourist in the US and got a state ID card. In Walmart I got a photo holding an assault rifle because I was stunned. The guy said with my state ID card I could buy it right then and as much ammo as I wanted.

15155 2y ago
The guy at Walmart might have been mistaken about the law (surprise?): if you are a resident you may own and purchase firearms, a tourist would not be eligible - but there's nothing stopping you from lying on forms (besides the penalty of perjury.)
- testing22321 2y ago
  I got my state ID card because I had a 6 month tourist visa, and the state considered me a resident. They won’t give a state ID if a tourist is on the I94 90 day visa waiver.