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There'd be a fair bit of noise if the Holocaust was happening today. It'd be more like Guantanamo Bay or the US's international program of black-bag kidnappings
by roenxi 2y ago
There'd be a fair bit of noise if the Holocaust was happening today. It'd be more like Guantanamo Bay or the US's international program of black-bag kidnappings. You don't expect to know exactly what is going on but there is a wiki page [0] and regular leaks [1] even if only a relatively small number of people involved. Something like the holocaust couldn't fly under the radar in the age of the internet; there'd be leaks like no-one's business. They could get away with more radio silence in the 1950s by not having social media.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay_files_leak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay_files_leak
- pyuser583 2y ago> There'd be a fair bit of noise if the Holocaust was happening today. I doubt it. The original Holocaust denier was FDR. He didn't want Nazi attrocities to distract from the war effort. If your main enemy is willing to participate in the coverup, that's a problem. We regularly forget about the horrific prison camps and racial policies of North Korean, because we're more worried about them having nuclear weapons. Same with religious persecution in Iran. If we can make a deal that keeps Iran and North Korea out of the nuclear club, and confined to their borders, it's best not to let their purely domestic attrocities get in the way. If Hitler hadn't invaded Poland, what would have happened to German/Austrian Jews?
- trod1234 2y agoI disagree. There is this design process called the separation of objectionable concerns, where the task roles are designed to promote complacency through information control, the Stasi perfected it, and its used everywhere today in sensitive positions. The most objectionable and risk related roles and tasks will be assigned to the fewest number of people with no one else being the wiser. All other roles involved are narrowly tailored towards specific parts supporting the whole without any knowledge of doing so. A murky transfer to a foreign prison makes for a very plausible disappearance. This is how these things are done historically, and social media is heavily controlled. It could easily happen given what happened with regards to China and the Uyghur population.
- hmcq6 2y ago> There'd be a fair bit of noise if the Holocaust was happening today. Why are we talking in hypotheticals when it literally is happening today?
- roenxi 2y agoThe Uyghur thing has been fairly well discussed and I assume people know everything they care to. Wikipedia is pretty comprehensive on the current state of knowledge.
- hmcq6 2y agoI was referring to the holocaust the US is currently aiding in
- roenxi 2y agoGaza? You should spell things out. Regardless even more ink has been spilled on that and there doesn't seem to be any particular ambiguity on what is happening. It is major international news and South Africa are bringing court cases to the ICJ. Israel isn't doing anything subtle.
- hmcq6 2y agoWait... so you effectively said "there's no holocaust going on" and I pointed out one and you accidentally brought up another... and I'm wrong still? What? No. All the saber rattling doesn't mean you were correct in implying there is no holocaust going on
- roenxi 2y ago> Wait... so you effectively said "there's no holocaust going on" I said the opposite, there are literally multiple genocides going on. They make a fair bit of noise. There is lots of evidence of them if you care to look. They all have well sourced Wikipedia pages. It isn't possible to wipe out a people and not have others quickly notice what is going on.