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"But yes, point taken: the extrajudicial actions of ICE recently are absolutely not helping people stay calm in the face of something like this." I find this k
by Brian_K_White 2y ago
"But yes, point taken: the extrajudicial actions of ICE recently are absolutely not helping people stay calm in the face of something like this."
I find this kind of offensive and dismissive.
1, I don't see why stay calm is so appropriate. It's always more effective to persue any aim thoughtfully rather than thoughtlessly of course, but that's just "all else being equal" and not all else is equal. Another truth is the the greater the injury the greater the reaction is still valid, defensible, appropriate, etc.
2, calmness is pretty orthogonal to assessment. You can be perfectly calm while judging extrajudicial actions of ICE and others as utterly outlandish and intolerable.
3, How calm are the ICE agents when they show up and you try to decline their offer? Why aren't they required to "let's just calm down and talk this out and see if we can resolve this with civility..."?
- KPGv2 2y agoICE is not the FBI. They aren't even in the same part of the federal bureaucracy (HomeSec vs DOJ). So it would behoove you not to conflate ICE's recent actions with the FBI's recent actions.
- Brian_K_White 2y agoI didn't conflate anything. I said ICE and others, because these things are not limited to either ICE or the FBI or this current specific incident. And as long as we're presuming to correct each others reading comprehension, this comment was in fact in response to a comment about staying calm in the face of ICE actions.