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Whether popular or not makes no difference. The guy murdered. Nonetheless I also feel a sense of helplessness given the current political climate. I posted on

Whether popular or not makes no difference. The guy murdered. Nonetheless I also feel a sense of helplessness given the current political climate. I posted once that if you invite violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest unwilling to leave. It was not a popular comment. Most of the responses said something to the effect of, "So you don't think violence ever accomplished anything?" I thought that was orthogonal and was an appalled frankly by the apparent justification for violence. Having said the above though, I am surprised that with so many denied health care and — facing essentially a death sentence — why do we not see more of them going postal?

gruez 2y ago
>Having said the above though, I am surprised that with so many denied health care and — facing essentially a death sentence — why do we not see more of them going postal? Did Mangione's even have personal beef with UNH, or even with the insurance industry? I thought he wasn't covered by UNH, and although he had a botched back surgery, he wasn't denied coverage?
- JKCalhoun 2y ago
  Yeah, I don't know. My sense is that he is a very entitled young man though and so, no, he is not someone that would be reacting to his own situation. I didn't mean to imply that he was — but that there are plenty of others though.
  - TMWNN 2y ago
    >Yeah, I don't know. My sense is that he is a very entitled young man though and so, no, he is not someone that would be reacting to his own situation. Mangione is an Ivy League engineer from a wealthy East coast family, while Thompson was a Iowa state school accountant whose father worked on grain elevators.
- tekla 2y ago
  He had nothing to do with UNH. He just really really wanted to kill someone that he didn't like and chose the UNH guy.
ceejayoz 2y ago
> Whether popular or not makes no difference. The guy murdered. The people who tried to blow up Hitler in the 20 July plot were trying to commit murder. Hitler’s concentration camps weren’t murder under German law at the time. “Unlawful” and “immoral” are often the same, but not always.

gruez 2y ago

>Having said the above though, I am surprised that with so many denied health care and — facing essentially a death sentence — why do we not see more of them going postal? Did Mangione's even have personal beef with UNH, or even with the insurance industry? I thought he wasn't covered by UNH, and although he had a botched back surgery, he wasn't denied coverage?

JKCalhoun 2y ago
Yeah, I don't know. My sense is that he is a very entitled young man though and so, no, he is not someone that would be reacting to his own situation. I didn't mean to imply that he was — but that there are plenty of others though.
- TMWNN 2y ago
  >Yeah, I don't know. My sense is that he is a very entitled young man though and so, no, he is not someone that would be reacting to his own situation. Mangione is an Ivy League engineer from a wealthy East coast family, while Thompson was a Iowa state school accountant whose father worked on grain elevators.
tekla 2y ago
He had nothing to do with UNH. He just really really wanted to kill someone that he didn't like and chose the UNH guy.

ceejayoz 2y ago

> Whether popular or not makes no difference. The guy murdered. The people who tried to blow up Hitler in the 20 July plot were trying to commit murder. Hitler’s concentration camps weren’t murder under German law at the time. “Unlawful” and “immoral” are often the same, but not always.