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This rule only applies to loose (spare) Li-ion batteries, not batteries which are installed in a device. I've heard of people ordering 18650s online and gettin

This rule only applies to loose (spare) Li-ion batteries, not batteries which are installed in a device. I've heard of people ordering 18650s online and getting them along with a free flashlight in which they came; I wonder if this regulation is why.

dehugger 2y ago
Almost definitely for import tax/restriction reasons. Putting the battery inside a cheap flashlight places it in a separate category than a battery by itself. Felt on the bottom of Converse sneakers to classify as slippers is a classic example of this. The battery limit described is for individual passengers, not air freight.
- Reason077 2y ago
  Air freight for Li-ion batteries is pretty strictly regulated too, especially when the freight is carried on passenger aircraft.
  - LorenPechtel 2y ago
    Yup, any time I order anything from Amazon that has lithium it comes with a big warning sticker about shipping restrictions. Even if it's a fixed battery inside a device.
  - voidUpdate 2y ago
    See UPS Flight 6 for a very good reason about why the flight of lithium batteries is regulated
    - MrGilbert 2y ago
      As always, Admiral Cloudberg has a deep-dive into this crash: https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/alone-in-the-inferno-the-crash-of-ups-airlines-flight-6-507d13f3e481 https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/alone-in-the-inferno-the... Slightly off topic, but she does an amazing job.
      - voidUpdate 2y ago
        I watched both Mentour Pilot and Green Dot Aviation's videos about it. Mentour Pilot's video terrified me, as it simulated the audio of being inside the cockpit, with GPWS, fire warnings, the sound of the fire all going on at the same time Green Dot Aviation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7uw6VzWHcM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7uw6VzWHcM Mentour Pilot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y50saxfTqQA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y50saxfTqQA
- SOLAR_FIELDS 2y ago
  Indeed. If it’s sold as already in a device, it doesn’t need the battery sticker and in general the regulations around shipping it are significantly less onerous.

dehugger 2y ago

Almost definitely for import tax/restriction reasons. Putting the battery inside a cheap flashlight places it in a separate category than a battery by itself. Felt on the bottom of Converse sneakers to classify as slippers is a classic example of this. The battery limit described is for individual passengers, not air freight.

Reason077 2y ago
Air freight for Li-ion batteries is pretty strictly regulated too, especially when the freight is carried on passenger aircraft.
- LorenPechtel 2y ago
  Yup, any time I order anything from Amazon that has lithium it comes with a big warning sticker about shipping restrictions. Even if it's a fixed battery inside a device.
- voidUpdate 2y ago
  See UPS Flight 6 for a very good reason about why the flight of lithium batteries is regulated
  - MrGilbert 2y ago
    As always, Admiral Cloudberg has a deep-dive into this crash: https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/alone-in-the-inferno-the-crash-of-ups-airlines-flight-6-507d13f3e481 https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/alone-in-the-inferno-the... Slightly off topic, but she does an amazing job.
    - voidUpdate 2y ago
      I watched both Mentour Pilot and Green Dot Aviation's videos about it. Mentour Pilot's video terrified me, as it simulated the audio of being inside the cockpit, with GPWS, fire warnings, the sound of the fire all going on at the same time Green Dot Aviation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7uw6VzWHcM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7uw6VzWHcM Mentour Pilot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y50saxfTqQA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y50saxfTqQA
SOLAR_FIELDS 2y ago
Indeed. If it’s sold as already in a device, it doesn’t need the battery sticker and in general the regulations around shipping it are significantly less onerous.