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ICE Revoking Students' Immigration Statuses Without Their or the Uni's Knowledge
- 1270018080 2y agoOnly true free-speech advocates require students to swear fealty to Israel before getting a student visa in America
- af3d 2y ago[flagged]
- fzeroracer 2y agoThis has literally nothing to do with the article for this post.
- af3d 2y agoOf course it does. The National Post article I linked to is about Mahmoud Khalil, who is indeed mentioned in the Zeteo article.
- malfist 2y ago[flagged]
- mrtksn 2y agoI know this is a political and touchy subject but IMHO the new policies will be a defining moment for the USA and it is relevant for tech as US tech is so successful primarily because can access the whole world as a market and can attract all the talent it needs. The things happening in US is going to break this. If stuff continues as is, USA will have $1T car company for 350M people, $2T company for search and online ads for 350M people and $3T company that tells tablets and phones to 350M people. How is this going to work really? USA is going to be fine overall I guess, the country has huge land and plenty of resources and some of the greatest talent out there but do you really want to change your economy in such a way? It will be painful, you will lose all your unfair advantage. I guess a fairer world is a good thing but why are you doing it?
- johntfella 2y agoOne of many policies that is detrimental. One thing that does not seem to be on tech's radar at the moment is what it could mean if Trump withholds US funding from WTO (https://borderlex.net/2025/03/27/alarm-bells-in-geneva-as-us-withholds-wto-funding/ https://borderlex.net/2025/03/27/alarm-bells-in-geneva-as-us...) and it's implications per TRIPs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43490291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43490291
- light_hue_1 2y agoYes! I can't understand why the media isn't talking about TRIPS and all of the other IP protections that the US baked into other the trade agreements. This is the only thing that matters. If the US is going to break these agreements, other countries will decide that our IP is not worth protecting. All they need to do is revert to the laws they had before TRIPS and free trade with the US. It's not just the tech industry. It's movies. It's pharma. It's biotech. This will economically ruin us.
- facile3232 2y agoI personally think IP hobbles our economy by reducing competition. What's the argument in favor? American companies certainly rely on it to avoid meeting market demand. As a result, our lives are shittier and we pay more for the insult. Why would chinese (or russian, or nigerian, or venezuelan) companies not treat us better? Why are we supposed to overlook the obvious incompetence of domestic corporations when they don't want to even fund my healthcare? I say these companies would be better off burnt down.
- light_hue_1 2y agoI want an economy. Without IP there is no biotech. There is no drug development. There is no games industry, movies, etc. I would agree that IP protections have gotten out of hand, and that shorter copyright would be beneficial. But it's not beneficial when some country will decide that our drug patents are worthless because we attacked them with tariffs.
- bauerm97 2y agoIt’s a seriously dark day in America when our government is weaponizing institutions to target political enemies
- ShonT 2y ago[dead]
- threeseed 2y agoFor me that’s not the scary part. It’s the fact that the institutions e.g. Congress, Judiciary are not able or willing to push back. And so we are seeing retribution for First Amendment activities e.g. protests being widespread despite it being clearly unconstitutional. Project 2025 was right in that if you flood the zone the system won’t be responsive enough to stop you.
- sofixa 2y ago> It’s the fact that the institutions e.g. Congress, Judiciary are not able or willing to push back Even worse, the population at large seems or acts indifferent.
- jeetoid 2y agoThis happened continuously during the Biden administration when they formed an entire network of public-private censorship and liberals told us “freedom of speech does not mean freedom of reach.” You can also reference the entire saga of Russiagate, and litany of lawfare against Trump that was looking for every and any way to jail him and his family.
- Capricorn2481 2y agoLow effort lies and handwavy "they did it first." Give it up. It's a fucking dictatorship and you're supporting it.
- jeetoid 2y agoYou’re unhinged and breaking HN rules, sorry. I’m not the one cursing.
- xqcgrek2 2y agoBeing a student should not make one immune from deportation.
- megous 2y agoIf America really doesn't want all that foreign talent, ... we in other countries surely will not mind.
- xqcgrek2 2y ago[flagged]
- eSandwich8 2y agoNot doing anything warranting deportation should make one immune from deportation.
- af3d 2y ago[flagged]
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- nine_zeros 2y agoSeriously, what is the difference between USA and China? When china used to disappear people for politics, there was a lot of gloating about how the west is better, America is better. But is there any difference any longer? America is so close to a fascist single party that is just doing things by dictatorship and zero accountability or transparency. What is the difference?
- alborzb 2y agoSome would say that the difference is the USA (for now at least) has a free press?
- thinkindie 2y agoand for how long?
- nine_zeros 2y ago> Some would say that the difference is the USA (for now at least) has a free press? Does it? Because the white house has been retaliating against any press that doesn't show them in a good light - like Associated Press.
- megous 2y agoUS engages with its colony in ME, in worst crimes known to international law. Like crimes of aggressive war (in Syria and Yemen), and genocide, aka destruction of a group of people and its society (in Palestine). Nobody in power in other western countries seems to be batting an eye publicly about it. Yet they bat quite a bit about Uyghur genocide (but not too much either, since EU depends a lot on Chinese trade), etc. Seems like a free pass, due to wanting that sweet US military HW or "protection", or whatever other sociopathic considerations.
- adingus 2y agoThe difference is that China has a dictator who needs to continually prove to the Chinese people why they shouldn't overthrow him, while the US has a dictator whose democratic election gives him the permission to do whatever the hell he wants to for 4 years.
- ShonT 2y ago[dead]
- perihelions 2y agoNote: the headline is not talking about visas. What they're talking about is a status field the student visa sponsor, the university, maintains: "Yes, this person really is a student here". The student visas are contingent on the person continuing ongoing studies—a status the university certifies. The Administration is, as I parse it, fraudulently editing these fields through a backdoor, and then using that "They're not an active student at XYZ" status they forged as the basis for revoking the visas.
- megous 2y agoTFA: > Samah Sisay of the Center for Constitutional Rights told Zeteo that one’s visa being revoked does not mean that their status would be too. Unlike student visas – which are entry documents that allow someone to enter the country – student statuses are what allow people to stay in the US. To maintain one’s status, a student has to fulfill certain requirements, like being properly enrolled in classes, keeping documents up to date, and following work restrictions.
- derbOac 2y agoWhat I want to know is what to do about this? I'm seriously asking. Protest, write letters, call legislators, donate to legal organizations? It feels like you can be doing all of this and it's not enough.
- dragonwriter 2y agoAll of that is good, its likely not to be enough, especially not in the short term. With luck, enough people doing that builds up and ends the abuses before too long, but history is full of cases where government abuses could not be stopped by peaceful opposition.
- Gigachad 2y agoThough not terribly impactful, I will not be taking any work trips to the US anymore and will be working on cutting out spending on US tech companies.
- parshimers 2y agoanyone cheering this on really has no idea how bad this is. higher education is an area in which the US has had a completely dominant position. the smartest and most driven people from all over the world come here to learn, and start businesses here afterwards. it's a tide that raises all ships. it's not at all a mixed bag like outsourcing or the loss of domestic manufacturing. that dominance is ending now, because of the cruel whims of one man. none of this is based on rules or process. it's the exact kind of fickle brutality people come to this country to escape. the entire thing is like cutting your nose off to spite your face.
- locopati 2y agoPeople need to stop blaming "one man." The entire Republican party is complicit in this. Congress has the power to end this. They are controlled by the Republicans. They are not ending this because this is what they want... power without accountability or consequence.
- sega_sai 2y agoThis is flagged now. I guess some people just don't want to see this kind of news. Or they agree with these tactics.