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Ah okay, so they wrote a strongly worded letter that said they couldn't confirm it was disinformation but that it had the signs of a disinformation campaign? So

Ah okay, so they wrote a strongly worded letter that said they couldn't confirm it was disinformation but that it had the signs of a disinformation campaign? So, they didn't threaten punishment or coerce these companies into doing it? Is that correct? You also didn't address the part where Republicans submitted many similar "censorship" requests that they had to keep a special database. > "We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not, and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement—just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case," the letter said.[0] > called up Twitter in the early morning hours of September 9, 2019, officials had what they believed was a serious issue to report: Famous model Chrissy Teigen had just called President Donald Trump “a pussy ass bitch” on Twitter — and the White House wanted the tweet to come down.[1] > That exchange — revealed during Wednesday’s House Oversight Committee hearing on Twitter by Rep. Gerry Connolly — and others like it are nowhere to be found in Elon Musk’s “Twitter Files” releases, which have focused almost exclusively on requests from Democrats and the feds to the social media company. The newly empowered Republican majority in the House of Representatives is now devoting significant resources and time to investigating this supposed “collusion” between liberal politicians and Twitter.[1] [0]: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000 https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9... [1]: https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115286/documents/HHRG-118-GO00-20230208-SD010.pdf https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115286/documents/...

lenkite 2y ago
Come now - the Biden laptop story wasn't all that old that you have conveniently forgotten the 51 senior intelligence officers coordinated with the Biden campaign and explicitly stated that the nypost story "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation" ? Some of them were active CIA contractors. Your great Adam Schiff even went on CNN saying that this smear campaign comes from the Kremlin and that Kremlin is assisting Trump. Taxpayer funded Politico also went live with headlines "Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say". The reveal was shut down fast by the Biden white-house. https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=1432 https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?Docu... "Furthermore, officials within the CIA recognized at the time that the Hunter Biden statement was political and would hurt the Agency. The signatories’ decision to leverage their former intelligence community titles to promote a narrative about foreign election interference improperly embroiled the Agency in domestic politics. This report underscores the potential dangers of a politicized intelligence community."
- hypeatei 2y ago
  The point is that the government didn't force these companies to take down the content. That, coupled with the endless legal witch hunts against Hunter Biden should be sufficient enough for Republicans but I guess it isn't. This story never dies for some reason. You'll never see me defending our intelligence apparatus and I agree that it's bad they involved themselves. But, government agents can submit strongly worded letters all they want. It doesn't mean anything.
  - lenkite 2y ago
    The FBI even explicitly went to facebook and said you need to be aware of Russian misinformation and this story "fit the pattern". Did you really need the govt intelligence apparatus to hold a gun to media heads ? Things don't work that way as you well know - they all need plausible denial. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532
  - lenkite 2y ago
    Something that will likely hopefully change your position: Chat logs, published just this Tuesday by the House Judiciary Committee on X, show that the gag order extended to an FBI analyst who attempted to alert social media companies that the laptop was authentic—before these companies moved to censor the story’s spread. Plese read the thread at: https://x.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1907098412652052870 https://x.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1907098412652052870 Nutshell: So, the FBI under Biden stated that the laptop story had all the signs of a Russian misinformation op. When an agent wanted to correct the record and mention that the laptop was genuine, he was made to shut up. If this isn't explicit partisan interference during an election period, the there is no standard of evidence that will convince you.

lenkite 2y ago

Come now - the Biden laptop story wasn't all that old that you have conveniently forgotten the 51 senior intelligence officers coordinated with the Biden campaign and explicitly stated that the nypost story "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation" ? Some of them were active CIA contractors. Your great Adam Schiff even went on CNN saying that this smear campaign comes from the Kremlin and that Kremlin is assisting Trump. Taxpayer funded Politico also went live with headlines "Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say". The reveal was shut down fast by the Biden white-house. https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=1432 https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?Docu... "Furthermore, officials within the CIA recognized at the time that the Hunter Biden statement was political and would hurt the Agency. The signatories’ decision to leverage their former intelligence community titles to promote a narrative about foreign election interference improperly embroiled the Agency in domestic politics. This report underscores the potential dangers of a politicized intelligence community."

hypeatei 2y ago
The point is that the government didn't force these companies to take down the content. That, coupled with the endless legal witch hunts against Hunter Biden should be sufficient enough for Republicans but I guess it isn't. This story never dies for some reason. You'll never see me defending our intelligence apparatus and I agree that it's bad they involved themselves. But, government agents can submit strongly worded letters all they want. It doesn't mean anything.
- lenkite 2y ago
  The FBI even explicitly went to facebook and said you need to be aware of Russian misinformation and this story "fit the pattern". Did you really need the govt intelligence apparatus to hold a gun to media heads ? Things don't work that way as you well know - they all need plausible denial. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532
- lenkite 2y ago
  Something that will likely hopefully change your position: Chat logs, published just this Tuesday by the House Judiciary Committee on X, show that the gag order extended to an FBI analyst who attempted to alert social media companies that the laptop was authentic—before these companies moved to censor the story’s spread. Plese read the thread at: https://x.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1907098412652052870 https://x.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1907098412652052870 Nutshell: So, the FBI under Biden stated that the laptop story had all the signs of a Russian misinformation op. When an agent wanted to correct the record and mention that the laptop was genuine, he was made to shut up. If this isn't explicit partisan interference during an election period, the there is no standard of evidence that will convince you.