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Considering all of these probably use either ChatGPT or Claude, is this entire business basically which company sends the best system prompt with your ask?

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
No. Cursor, for example, let's you choose your model, and you can even use your own OpenAI API key for example if you want. But it's a lot more than just "the best system prompt". E.g. Cursor uses RAG (it indexes your repo in a vector DB) so it can use the right parts of your repo as context when calling the model. The biggest benefit I initially got from Cursor was asking it questions about my own repository, not a generic "how do I do X in Python" type of question I'd also say UI and workflow mean a ton here. The agentic mode of Cursor is very well integrated.
BoorishBears 2y ago
Sure. Just like all social apps are just about who can send the best code to run on a hyperscaler's servers.
- yahoozoo 2y ago
  Right, because the defining factor between Facebook and Friendster was just ‘who compiled their code better.’ Amazing take. Meanwhile, LLM wrapper startups are out here acting like sending a slightly fancier paragraph to OpenAI is the new gold rush—until OpenAI just builds the feature themselves.
  - LewisVerstappen 2y ago
    You have zero idea what you’re talking about. Every one of these companies is using agents. they’re not relying on a single LLM call with some kind of prompt.
  - BoorishBears 2y ago
    No clue what you're on about unless you seriously couldn't get the irony of my comment, in which case I'm not sure it's worth trying to discuss anything more nuanced than a sledgehammer in the current company.
nikcub 2y ago
If you read the leaked system prompts[0] you'll find that each platform has a bunch of custom tools that are called [0] https://github.com/jujumilk3/leaked-system-prompts https://github.com/jujumilk3/leaked-system-prompts

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago

No. Cursor, for example, let's you choose your model, and you can even use your own OpenAI API key for example if you want. But it's a lot more than just "the best system prompt". E.g. Cursor uses RAG (it indexes your repo in a vector DB) so it can use the right parts of your repo as context when calling the model. The biggest benefit I initially got from Cursor was asking it questions about my own repository, not a generic "how do I do X in Python" type of question I'd also say UI and workflow mean a ton here. The agentic mode of Cursor is very well integrated.

BoorishBears 2y ago

Sure. Just like all social apps are just about who can send the best code to run on a hyperscaler's servers.

yahoozoo 2y ago
Right, because the defining factor between Facebook and Friendster was just ‘who compiled their code better.’ Amazing take. Meanwhile, LLM wrapper startups are out here acting like sending a slightly fancier paragraph to OpenAI is the new gold rush—until OpenAI just builds the feature themselves.
- LewisVerstappen 2y ago
  You have zero idea what you’re talking about. Every one of these companies is using agents. they’re not relying on a single LLM call with some kind of prompt.
- BoorishBears 2y ago
  No clue what you're on about unless you seriously couldn't get the irony of my comment, in which case I'm not sure it's worth trying to discuss anything more nuanced than a sledgehammer in the current company.

nikcub 2y ago

If you read the leaked system prompts[0] you'll find that each platform has a bunch of custom tools that are called [0] https://github.com/jujumilk3/leaked-system-prompts https://github.com/jujumilk3/leaked-system-prompts