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Are those the people voting for the "have the government put restrictions on trans people" party? I have a feeling it's not about "letting people be". It's abo

Are those the people voting for the "have the government put restrictions on trans people" party? I have a feeling it's not about "letting people be". It's about "let me be and screw over those I don't like"

danielmarkbruce 2y ago
If you live in the US, you'll meet a lot of genuinely good people on both sides of the more/less government debate. Anyone who thinks this is a straightforward issue is dumb, frankly.
- Xelynega 2y ago
  I'm just confused how parties that advocate for small government(in the US and Canada) seem to simultaneously target the rights of minorities. How can the issue people are concerned with be government overreach if they don't care about the government overreaching into others backyards?
  - danielmarkbruce 2y ago
    What rights of minorities have been targeted? If the only example is trans rights, it's dumb to think it's a simple issue of trampled rights. There are two competing sets of rights, you grant one set you take away from the other. There isn't a good solution. If you think all the people advocating for small government must be fools or hypocrites, you don't understand the issues an any depth.
    - Xelynega 2y ago
      Why do trans people not count as a minority being targetted? I'm curious, what rights are "granted" by making it illegal for doctors to prescribe puberty blocks when they as a medical professional and a child's parents as their guardian agree they're the best medical course of action for a child? Saying "it's about granting and taking away" like rights are some zero-sum game feels like it's ignoring the complexity of these issues more than what I'm saying.
      - danielmarkbruce 2y ago
        Nobody said "doesn't count". You are disingenuous.
        Xelynega 2y ago
        > What rights of minorities have been targeted? If the only example is trans rights, it's dumb to think it's a simple issue of trampled rights So it's not an issue of trampled rights if it's just trans rights, yet you can't come up with a reason that trans rights need to be restricted to ensure freedom of others. And it's being disingenuous to call you out for saying trans rights don't matter when you say this...
        danielmarkbruce 2y ago
        Example: trans rights in sports. You let them play, you take away the rights to a fair playing field for women born women. You don't let them play, you take away their right to play sport. There isn't a good solution. You knew the example. You know why society restricts people below 18 from all kinds of things. You are the very definition of disingenuous.
        Xelynega 2y ago
        Trans people playing on the sporting team they want to is not "rights", and your focus on it to deflect from the very real issue I brought up is telling... I don't mind being called "the very definition of disingenuous" by you.

danielmarkbruce 2y ago

If you live in the US, you'll meet a lot of genuinely good people on both sides of the more/less government debate. Anyone who thinks this is a straightforward issue is dumb, frankly.

Xelynega 2y ago
I'm just confused how parties that advocate for small government(in the US and Canada) seem to simultaneously target the rights of minorities. How can the issue people are concerned with be government overreach if they don't care about the government overreaching into others backyards?
- danielmarkbruce 2y ago
  What rights of minorities have been targeted? If the only example is trans rights, it's dumb to think it's a simple issue of trampled rights. There are two competing sets of rights, you grant one set you take away from the other. There isn't a good solution. If you think all the people advocating for small government must be fools or hypocrites, you don't understand the issues an any depth.
  - Xelynega 2y ago
    Why do trans people not count as a minority being targetted? I'm curious, what rights are "granted" by making it illegal for doctors to prescribe puberty blocks when they as a medical professional and a child's parents as their guardian agree they're the best medical course of action for a child? Saying "it's about granting and taking away" like rights are some zero-sum game feels like it's ignoring the complexity of these issues more than what I'm saying.
    - danielmarkbruce 2y ago
      Nobody said "doesn't count". You are disingenuous.
      - Xelynega 2y ago
        > What rights of minorities have been targeted? If the only example is trans rights, it's dumb to think it's a simple issue of trampled rights So it's not an issue of trampled rights if it's just trans rights, yet you can't come up with a reason that trans rights need to be restricted to ensure freedom of others. And it's being disingenuous to call you out for saying trans rights don't matter when you say this...
        danielmarkbruce 2y ago
        Example: trans rights in sports. You let them play, you take away the rights to a fair playing field for women born women. You don't let them play, you take away their right to play sport. There isn't a good solution. You knew the example. You know why society restricts people below 18 from all kinds of things. You are the very definition of disingenuous.
        Xelynega 2y ago
        Trans people playing on the sporting team they want to is not "rights", and your focus on it to deflect from the very real issue I brought up is telling... I don't mind being called "the very definition of disingenuous" by you.