That was the line 10 years ago that I heard, "You go to college to learn how to think logically." Don't you think that if you haven't learned that at all by 18

That was the line 10 years ago that I heard, "You go to college to learn how to think logically." Don't you think that if you haven't learned that at all by 18, you won't learn it in the next 4 years surrounded by equally ignorant kids? But, speaking of the topic, how many colleges these days require courses in rhetoric? I sat in on a bunch of college sophmore classes when I was 14 and 15, even wrote some of my friend's English papers for them, on books I had never even read. I wasn't impressed. And this was a "good state university" as someone else mentioned.