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How many countries has the U.S. annexed in the last 80 years? You’re completely wrong. But even if you were right that the U.S. was simply applying its foreig

How many countries has the U.S. annexed in the last 80 years? You’re completely wrong. But even if you were right that the U.S. was simply applying its foreign policy to its “sphere of influence”, surely even you can see the immense foolishness of applying the same policies you have towards countries that are your enemies or even neutral to you, to countries that are your allies? Finally, even if we accept that it’s actually really smart to treat your allies as your enemies, in all those other cases the U.S. responded because of attacks by those countries on America, American Allies or American companies. In the current situation there’s no such excuse.

zmgsabst 2y ago
The US is occupying two for profit right now: - occupying Syrian oil fields - strong arming Ukraine for mineral rights, after overthrowing a democratically elected government a decade ago > applying the same policies you have towards countries that are your enemies or even neutral to you, to countries that are your allies? My exact point is that after publicly shaming Americans (eg, mocking our lack of social spending while being deadbeats to NATO) and collaborating with their perceived enemies (eg, the US internationalist elites) for my entire lifetime, there’s a significant fraction of the US who sees the EU and Canada as adversarial. If they were allies, why have they spent generations mocking us for our contributions and working against our interests? > in all those other cases the U.S. responded because of attacks by those countries on America Syria, Libya, and Ukraine are counter examples. > In the current situation there’s no such excuse. Annexing Canada is the US equivalent of Russia retaining control of Ukraine or China slowly invading the ASEAN sea. That’s what the world looks like in an era of great powers engaging in realpolitik.
- inejge 2y ago
  > Annexing Canada is the US equivalent of Russia retaining control of Ukraine Yes, if you disregard a few hundreds of years of history. The reverse, Canada absorbing the US and restoring the continuation of the British Empire, would be more similar, although not equivalent by a long shot.
- patagurbon 2y ago
  So “mocking” a country is now casus belli?
  - uppost 2y ago
    If it's a severe mocking it can begin to demoralize a people and make them Canadian.
- krapp 2y ago
  >My exact point is that after publicly shaming Americans (eg, mocking our lack of social spending while being deadbeats to NATO) and collaborating with their perceived enemies (eg, the US internationalist elites) for my entire lifetime, there’s a significant fraction of the US who sees the EU and Canada as adversarial. We're watching history be reconstructed into pretext in real time. Soon, we will always have been at war with Canada.

zmgsabst 2y ago

The US is occupying two for profit right now: - occupying Syrian oil fields - strong arming Ukraine for mineral rights, after overthrowing a democratically elected government a decade ago > applying the same policies you have towards countries that are your enemies or even neutral to you, to countries that are your allies? My exact point is that after publicly shaming Americans (eg, mocking our lack of social spending while being deadbeats to NATO) and collaborating with their perceived enemies (eg, the US internationalist elites) for my entire lifetime, there’s a significant fraction of the US who sees the EU and Canada as adversarial. If they were allies, why have they spent generations mocking us for our contributions and working against our interests? > in all those other cases the U.S. responded because of attacks by those countries on America Syria, Libya, and Ukraine are counter examples. > In the current situation there’s no such excuse. Annexing Canada is the US equivalent of Russia retaining control of Ukraine or China slowly invading the ASEAN sea. That’s what the world looks like in an era of great powers engaging in realpolitik.

inejge 2y ago
> Annexing Canada is the US equivalent of Russia retaining control of Ukraine Yes, if you disregard a few hundreds of years of history. The reverse, Canada absorbing the US and restoring the continuation of the British Empire, would be more similar, although not equivalent by a long shot.
patagurbon 2y ago
So “mocking” a country is now casus belli?
- uppost 2y ago
  If it's a severe mocking it can begin to demoralize a people and make them Canadian.
krapp 2y ago
>My exact point is that after publicly shaming Americans (eg, mocking our lack of social spending while being deadbeats to NATO) and collaborating with their perceived enemies (eg, the US internationalist elites) for my entire lifetime, there’s a significant fraction of the US who sees the EU and Canada as adversarial. We're watching history be reconstructed into pretext in real time. Soon, we will always have been at war with Canada.