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The main study I can find referenced to this was based in China where levels of flouride in water appear to be much higher than in the US. Even the study itsel

The main study I can find referenced to this was based in China where levels of flouride in water appear to be much higher than in the US. Even the study itself calls out 'low-flouride' vs 'high-flouride.' Not 'no flouride.' Utah is going to have a dental crisis in a few years, as there already too few dentists.

attila-lendvai 2y ago
reality check: europe never had fluoride in the water. still looking for the dental crisis.
- genewitch 2y ago
  Tea has fluoride in it. Not saying that's the only reason, but perhaps one.
  - ekianjo 2y ago
    Then Americans who drink tea get a double dose of fluoride without knowing it. How does that work with the studies?
    - genewitch 2y ago
      i started and then deleted several responses to this. I'm not sure how it affects studies, because i don't really read studies that often, it's very taxing on my brain. However, one thing i think is important is it's generally a good idea to give children as little caffeine as possible. I'm sure this is a controversial claim. But if we take that as true, then children aren't getting fluoride from tea, ideally. Adults can make the decision to drink tea that has less or more fluoride, if they care. I personally don't care that much, so i get whatever tea. I have a well, and i brew my tea with distilled water, so whatever is in the bag is whatever i am drinking, and nothing else. for those that might care, i RO my well water (screen-pre-RO-post filters) into 6 gallon containers, and then distill a gallon at a time. Each gallon of RO water takes ~5 hours total, including the time for the RO to process the water. My RO is very slow, but i am unwilling to pay for a jet pump for it, currently, to speed it up. It takes about 7-8 hours to fill 6 gallons, and it should be able to fill 6 gallons in 3 hours or so - it is a 50GPD filter system, so ~2GPH.
- ghuroo1 2y ago
  most people’s teeth in europe do not look great.. specially when compared to north americans. from my experience, only people who are serious about their mouth health and go to the dentist at least twice a year, seem to have healthy and good looking teeth.
  - adamors 2y ago
    > most people’s teeth in europe do not look great What nonsense
    - wordofx 2y ago
      He’s watched too much simpsons.
  - ekianjo 2y ago
    > people’s teeth in europe do not look great What an offensive statement. Based on what? N=5 observation?
  - karparov 2y ago
    Twice a year? That's only recommended by dentists in north america because most insurances cover it because of lobby pressure. Every 1-2 years fully suffices, depending on your risk profile (smoker, genetics, ...). That's what countries where the insurrance doesn't have skin in the game recommend. And the average european has much better tooth health than the average u.s. citizen, in my experience.
    - drcongo 2y ago
      We have a lot less meth in Europe.
  - isleyaardvark 2y ago
    There's a difference between cosmetic dentistry (teeth whitening and the like) and regular dental health.
- toxik 2y ago
  What? Yes we do.
  - adamors 2y ago
    > Out of a population of about three-quarters of a billion, under 14 million people (approximately 2%) in Europe receive artificially-fluoridated water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_country#Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_country#...
- DaRaam 2y ago
  Most of the water still has fluoride in it naturally.
pests 2y ago
40 out of over 60ish counties in Florida already are fluoride free
wfme 2y ago
Meta analysis of the various studies (74 of them from a large range of countries): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2828425 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/...

attila-lendvai 2y ago

reality check: europe never had fluoride in the water. still looking for the dental crisis.

genewitch 2y ago
Tea has fluoride in it. Not saying that's the only reason, but perhaps one.
- ekianjo 2y ago
  Then Americans who drink tea get a double dose of fluoride without knowing it. How does that work with the studies?
  - genewitch 2y ago
    i started and then deleted several responses to this. I'm not sure how it affects studies, because i don't really read studies that often, it's very taxing on my brain. However, one thing i think is important is it's generally a good idea to give children as little caffeine as possible. I'm sure this is a controversial claim. But if we take that as true, then children aren't getting fluoride from tea, ideally. Adults can make the decision to drink tea that has less or more fluoride, if they care. I personally don't care that much, so i get whatever tea. I have a well, and i brew my tea with distilled water, so whatever is in the bag is whatever i am drinking, and nothing else. for those that might care, i RO my well water (screen-pre-RO-post filters) into 6 gallon containers, and then distill a gallon at a time. Each gallon of RO water takes ~5 hours total, including the time for the RO to process the water. My RO is very slow, but i am unwilling to pay for a jet pump for it, currently, to speed it up. It takes about 7-8 hours to fill 6 gallons, and it should be able to fill 6 gallons in 3 hours or so - it is a 50GPD filter system, so ~2GPH.
ghuroo1 2y ago
most people’s teeth in europe do not look great.. specially when compared to north americans. from my experience, only people who are serious about their mouth health and go to the dentist at least twice a year, seem to have healthy and good looking teeth.
- adamors 2y ago
  > most people’s teeth in europe do not look great What nonsense
  - wordofx 2y ago
    He’s watched too much simpsons.
- ekianjo 2y ago
  > people’s teeth in europe do not look great What an offensive statement. Based on what? N=5 observation?
- karparov 2y ago
  Twice a year? That's only recommended by dentists in north america because most insurances cover it because of lobby pressure. Every 1-2 years fully suffices, depending on your risk profile (smoker, genetics, ...). That's what countries where the insurrance doesn't have skin in the game recommend. And the average european has much better tooth health than the average u.s. citizen, in my experience.
  - drcongo 2y ago
    We have a lot less meth in Europe.
- isleyaardvark 2y ago
  There's a difference between cosmetic dentistry (teeth whitening and the like) and regular dental health.
toxik 2y ago
What? Yes we do.
- adamors 2y ago
  > Out of a population of about three-quarters of a billion, under 14 million people (approximately 2%) in Europe receive artificially-fluoridated water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_country#Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_country#...
DaRaam 2y ago
Most of the water still has fluoride in it naturally.

pests 2y ago

40 out of over 60ish counties in Florida already are fluoride free

wfme 2y ago

Meta analysis of the various studies (74 of them from a large range of countries): https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2828425 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/...