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I got a Master's Degree in Education and spent 2 years in Educational Psychology Ph.D. program and absolutely 0 time was spent looking at how other countries do
by yboris 2y ago
I got a Master's Degree in Education and spent 2 years in Educational Psychology Ph.D. program and absolutely 0 time was spent looking at how other countries do education.
It's baffling how despite numerous other countries outperforming the US in educational outcomes we do not even look at other approaches!
- bdangubic 2y agocause we are the best and when you are the best you simply do not look back :)
- noisy_boy 2y agoBest enough to even sing about it :)
- _heimdall 2y agoIs national pride a problem now? I'd expect any country to have something like a national anthem and patriotic songs.
- theendisney 2y agoYes, in the Netherlands we have a culture of moaning about everthing. Youd beter not dare suggest sonething is good enough! This complaining is the only thing we are proud of. lol (If we had patriotic songs worth remembering im sure i would have) The problem is this, hoe do you fix something you are proud of? It seems a contradiction?
- _heimdall 2y agoAgreed, I lives in the Netherlands for a couple years and can agree there isn't much patriotism so much as pragmatism! (I actually mean that as a good thing, I was a very fond of NL and the friends I made there). Speaking as an American, though, I can both be proud of something and recognize its faults. I'm proud of the core principles that America was based upon, for example, but very much recognize how far we've deviated from them and how much we need to fix.
- vasco 2y ago> I'm proud of the core principles that America was based upon I think there's never much to gain in being proud of things you have nothing to do with or control over. If you like some principles you would be proud when you uphold them personally. It is when we start feeling proud in the abstract that we start having issues.
- kelnos 2y agoCan't help but agree. I would go even further and say that pride itself is problematic. Sure, it can perhaps have some good effects, but pride usually blinds people to faults, even if the do acknowledge there are faults. "Pride goeth before a fall" is a time-worn saying for good reason.
- input_sh 2y agoSure, but kids don't sing them in schools and there's definitely nothing even remotely comparable to the Pledge of Allegiance. Hell, in some countries even the national anthem has no lyrics but is purely an instrumental track (Spain being a notable example).
- cj 2y ago> there's definitely nothing even remotely comparable Mexico's Pledge of Allegiance celebrated every Monday in schools. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance_to_the_Mexican_Flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance_to_the_Me...
- input_sh 2y agoMy parents had to do something similar, so I'm not too unfamiliar with the concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Pioneers_of_Yugoslavia#Induction_and_pledge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Pioneers_of_Yugoslavi... But even that was once-in-a-lifetime event to emphasise the importance of the first day at school at age 7, it did not happen every Monday. Needless to say, it wasn't very effective. As evidenced by history, some of our parents definitely broke that pledge later in their life.
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- cycomanic 2y agoI'm not a big fan of patriotism in general, but something I noticed about the US patriotism is the tendency to call the US "the best country in the world". This crosses all political differences, e.g. I recall being surprised how Michael Moore was saying it in an interview or movie (when justifying criticising policy, he said he does it because he knows that America is the best country in the world). Even the most patriotic friends I have in other countries would typically not say this.
- kelnos 2y agoYeah, as an American I've always found this cringe-worthy, even kinda icky. Claiming to be the best (at anything) is just tacky and arrogant. Especially with something as impossible to quantify as "best country". There's no such thing as the best country in the world. Every one has strengths and weaknesses, and you can't really balance and rank them.
- bdangubic 2y agoThe only thing America is best in the world is number of incarcerated people per capita :)
- euroclear 2y agoIs there a source for this claim? It appears to be untrue. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarcera... [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-th...
- bdangubic 2y agoI was 1/2 joking ( https://youtu.be/wTjMqda19wk https://youtu.be/wTjMqda19wk )
- foobiekr 2y agoNationalism is by far the most successful leftist project. It’s kind of amazing that the left has forgotten that fact.
- bryanrasmussen 2y agomost countries anthems celebrate how they are the best, if that's what you're referring to.
- Gud 2y agoI doubt it. In my experience, most national anthems highlight their nations struggle for independence. Poland, https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/national-anthem/warsaw-full.html https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/national-anthem/... Netherlands, https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/periods-genres/national-anthems/netherlands-dutch-lyrics-history-english-translation/ https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/periods-genres/nati...
- bryanrasmussen 2y agoI guess "the best" is doing a lot of work there, for example the most sung anthem for Denmark "Der er et yndigt land" - there is a lovely land does not explicitly say that Denmark is the best ever, there may indeed be other lovely lands, and in comparison with say America the Beautiful it is downright humble, but on the other hand it is my experience that anthems talk up their country, and if they are talking up their struggle for independence or freedom, like say Il Canto degli Italiani, it will be talking up the martial valor of the people so freed and probably talking about how they aren't going to be put down again, another aspect that America the Beautiful goes into. The difference between America the Beautiful and other anthems is how much it does, for how long, and making sure it gets everything it can possibly cram in there. It's like a bunch of people standing on a stand at a sporting match shouting "America, America, America" unremittingly, whereas most people might be satisfied to shout "Go {my country}" and be done with it.
- sejje 2y agoAmerica the Beautiful is not the national anthem.
- yxhuvud 2y agoThe anthem of my country claim us to be free, silent and green. And oh, that people used to talk about us and that despite they don't anymore we are still a pretty nice place to live.
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- 6510 2y agoMaybe it's better not to look... https://www.tiktok.com/@guinnessworldrecords/video/7470577426758651169?lang=en https://www.tiktok.com/@guinnessworldrecords/video/747057742... ha-ha f....