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> How is knowing whether I have the Xbox or the Playstation app installed on my phone essential to their Swiggy's core functionality? How will knowing if I have

> How is knowing whether I have the Xbox or the Playstation app installed on my phone essential to their Swiggy's core functionality? How will knowing if I have the Naukri or Upstox app help them deliver groceries to my doorstep? It is for fingerprinting purposes

wutwutwat 2y ago
fingerprinting is the best case scenario
- _heimdall 2y ago
  What's the worst case, in your opinion?
  - hattmall 2y ago
    Targeting and profiling. Reselling the data.
    - _heimdall 2y ago
      Maybe I'm wrong, but that feels pretty similar to fingerprinting. Usually that's why online services try to fingerprint you, for advertising and data revenue.
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    - DevKoala 2y ago
      That is what the fingerprinting is for.
      - YetAnotherNick 2y ago
        Fingerprinting is just for identifying user, not getting user data. You can potentially resell things like app usage to credit rating company.
        DevKoala 2y ago
        That is profiling. Fingerprinting is an identification mechanism. It is most commonly used for targeting and profiling.
      - hattmall 1y ago
        Does fingerprinting necessarily imply reselling that data?
  - em3rgent0rdr 2y ago
    The US Customs & Border Control apps ("CBP Home" and "Mobile Passport Control") could check for blacklisted apps and flag you to be deported to an El Salvadorean gulag without due process.
    - _heimdall 2y ago
      Does El Salvador do gulags? I thought that was more of a Russian approach to imprisonment.
      - skrebbel 2y ago
        Parent commenter doesn't mean literal gulags, but a similarly bad place sent people to by a similarly bad government.
        touristtam 2y ago
        I think the commenter was asking for a clarification on the hyperbole used. Unsure on the intend being candidly asked or there was an agenda (as it is often the case with political discussions). Hopefully the El Salvador deal is a far cry from the internment camps from the 19th & 20th century.
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      - __jonas 2y ago
        This is likely in reference to a recent deal the US (Trump) has made with El Salvador, allowing them to ship US citizens off to prisons in El Salvador, whether this is actually possible is not clear at this point though [1]. Here is some more information about the conditions in these prisons in El Salvador, CECOT being the most notable one: > Able to hold 40,000 inmates, the CECOT is made up of eight sprawling pavilions. Its cells hold 65 to 70 prisoners each. They do not receive visits. There are no programs preparing them to return to society after their sentences, no workshops or educational programs. They are never allowed outside. [2] I believe the term gulag makes sense in that context despite it not being a forced labor camp. Not sure how this relates to Russia at all (apart from the origin of the term obviously). [1] https://apnews.com/article/rubio-trump-deportations-usaid-f7a62a10b9a5d81582d05a33ff2281a4 https://apnews.com/article/rubio-trump-deportations-usaid-f7... [2] https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-us-rubio-prison-de912f6a8199aaa7c8490585dcaa3b87 https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-us-rubio-prison-de912...
  - wutwutwat 1y ago
    I can imagine knowing the apps someone uses might be a telling thing to someone looking for leverage on someone (who might not want to disclose what apps they use). Apps can expose your orientation, your lifestyle, your income level, your habits, and even where to look to find you (imagine you have an app for a gym, that narrows down the list of gyms to find you at and is better than nothing) Politicians, law enforcement, high value targets, etc. A list of apps on their phone could totally be used against them and is better than no list of apps.
nom 2y ago
It also checks for popular remote desktop apps (allow incoming connections to the phone) which could be used to increase scam success rate. Same with banks apps, if you are a scammer it's really useful to know beforehand what kind of bank the target uses. There are probably a whole bunch of groups who have a purposes for this kind of info, especially if they can link it to the phone number.

wutwutwat 2y ago

fingerprinting is the best case scenario

_heimdall 2y ago
What's the worst case, in your opinion?
- hattmall 2y ago
  Targeting and profiling. Reselling the data.
  - _heimdall 2y ago
    Maybe I'm wrong, but that feels pretty similar to fingerprinting. Usually that's why online services try to fingerprint you, for advertising and data revenue.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
  - DevKoala 2y ago
    That is what the fingerprinting is for.
    - YetAnotherNick 2y ago
      Fingerprinting is just for identifying user, not getting user data. You can potentially resell things like app usage to credit rating company.
      - DevKoala 2y ago
        That is profiling. Fingerprinting is an identification mechanism. It is most commonly used for targeting and profiling.
    - hattmall 1y ago
      Does fingerprinting necessarily imply reselling that data?
- em3rgent0rdr 2y ago
  The US Customs & Border Control apps ("CBP Home" and "Mobile Passport Control") could check for blacklisted apps and flag you to be deported to an El Salvadorean gulag without due process.
  - _heimdall 2y ago
    Does El Salvador do gulags? I thought that was more of a Russian approach to imprisonment.
    - skrebbel 2y ago
      Parent commenter doesn't mean literal gulags, but a similarly bad place sent people to by a similarly bad government.
      - touristtam 2y ago
        I think the commenter was asking for a clarification on the hyperbole used. Unsure on the intend being candidly asked or there was an agenda (as it is often the case with political discussions). Hopefully the El Salvador deal is a far cry from the internment camps from the 19th & 20th century.
        deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
    - __jonas 2y ago
      This is likely in reference to a recent deal the US (Trump) has made with El Salvador, allowing them to ship US citizens off to prisons in El Salvador, whether this is actually possible is not clear at this point though [1]. Here is some more information about the conditions in these prisons in El Salvador, CECOT being the most notable one: > Able to hold 40,000 inmates, the CECOT is made up of eight sprawling pavilions. Its cells hold 65 to 70 prisoners each. They do not receive visits. There are no programs preparing them to return to society after their sentences, no workshops or educational programs. They are never allowed outside. [2] I believe the term gulag makes sense in that context despite it not being a forced labor camp. Not sure how this relates to Russia at all (apart from the origin of the term obviously). [1] https://apnews.com/article/rubio-trump-deportations-usaid-f7a62a10b9a5d81582d05a33ff2281a4 https://apnews.com/article/rubio-trump-deportations-usaid-f7... [2] https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-us-rubio-prison-de912f6a8199aaa7c8490585dcaa3b87 https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-us-rubio-prison-de912...
- wutwutwat 1y ago
  I can imagine knowing the apps someone uses might be a telling thing to someone looking for leverage on someone (who might not want to disclose what apps they use). Apps can expose your orientation, your lifestyle, your income level, your habits, and even where to look to find you (imagine you have an app for a gym, that narrows down the list of gyms to find you at and is better than nothing) Politicians, law enforcement, high value targets, etc. A list of apps on their phone could totally be used against them and is better than no list of apps.

nom 2y ago

It also checks for popular remote desktop apps (allow incoming connections to the phone) which could be used to increase scam success rate. Same with banks apps, if you are a scammer it's really useful to know beforehand what kind of bank the target uses. There are probably a whole bunch of groups who have a purposes for this kind of info, especially if they can link it to the phone number.