> and the fact people have to go to such length to get access to it is noteworthy I'll repeat myself: no it's not. There's nothing noteworthy about it at all.

> and the fact people have to go to such length to get access to it is noteworthy I'll repeat myself: no it's not. There's nothing noteworthy about it at all. In fact I literally cannot fathom why anyone ever expects or expected otherwise. Is it because the oft-repeated notion of "abstraction"? I guess I must be the sole programmer that has always known/understood, even from the first intro class, that abstractions are just assumptions and when those assumptions don't hold I will need to remove the abstraction.