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As they well should. Science has been completely destroyed through grant revocation at Colombia on the pretense of unconnected protests about Israel and Palest

As they well should. Science has been completely destroyed through grant revocation at Colombia on the pretense of unconnected protests about Israel and Palestine. There is no targeting based on who did what, just being in the same institution is enough. And many of these physicists have workers from other countries doing research for them. Even if they are US citizens, their thought crimes will have severe problems for those employees.

WillPostForFood 2y ago
"Science has been completely destroyed" Really? Completely?
- pmags 2y ago
  Would you prefer the phrasing "US scientific and public health infrastructure has been subjected to capricious changes that will effect almost all aspects of research and health care for a decade or more"? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00954-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00954-y https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-plan-overhauling-health-agencies-will-cut-10-000-positions https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-plan-overhauli... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/report-us-scientists-lost-3-billion-in-nih-grants-since-trump-took-office/ https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/report-us-scientists-... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/28/trump-administration-science-research-cuts/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/28/trump-adm... https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/trump-america-infectious-disease/682138/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/trump-ame... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00525-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00525-1
  - WillPostForFood 2y ago
    Is there a fluoride article in that barrage of links?
    - pmags 2y ago
      You seem to prefer snarky comments to actual citations. Your loss I guess.
    - wpm 2y ago
      Hey man what’s your problem?
  - lostmsu 2y ago
    Don't see any cuts to maths, physics, chemistry, or computer science. Let alone "complete destruction". For the enraged ones, reminder: this branch aims to refute "Science has been completely destroyed"
    - pmags 2y ago
      Are you unaware that the executive orders on F&A indirect affect every field of science? Are you aware that an enormous amount of chemistry, mathematical, computer science, physics, etc. is funded through the NIH? The poster I responded to complained I gave too many examples, and now your post is a complaint that I didn't give examples in scientific areas you deem important. For tedious completeness here are a variety of other examples all of which involve math, physics, chemistry, computer science and other non-biomedical fields. * Proposed cuts to NIST -- https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/nx-s1-5340687/trump-cuts-nist-atomic-spectra-lab-advanced-chips-medical-devices https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/nx-s1-5340687/trump-cuts-nist... * NASA -- https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/white-house-may-seek-to-slash-nasas-science-budget-by-50-percent/ https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/white-house-may-seek-t... * Department of Energy -- https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/29/energy-departments-project-hit-list-draws-bipartisan-pushback-from-lawmakers-00254729 https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/29/energy-departments-...

WillPostForFood 2y ago

"Science has been completely destroyed" Really? Completely?

pmags 2y ago
Would you prefer the phrasing "US scientific and public health infrastructure has been subjected to capricious changes that will effect almost all aspects of research and health care for a decade or more"? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00954-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00954-y https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-plan-overhauling-health-agencies-will-cut-10-000-positions https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-plan-overhauli... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00780-2 https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/report-us-scientists-lost-3-billion-in-nih-grants-since-trump-took-office/ https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/report-us-scientists-... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/28/trump-administration-science-research-cuts/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/28/trump-adm... https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/trump-america-infectious-disease/682138/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/trump-ame... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00525-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00525-1
- WillPostForFood 2y ago
  Is there a fluoride article in that barrage of links?
  - pmags 2y ago
    You seem to prefer snarky comments to actual citations. Your loss I guess.
  - wpm 2y ago
    Hey man what’s your problem?
- lostmsu 2y ago
  Don't see any cuts to maths, physics, chemistry, or computer science. Let alone "complete destruction". For the enraged ones, reminder: this branch aims to refute "Science has been completely destroyed"
  - pmags 2y ago
    Are you unaware that the executive orders on F&A indirect affect every field of science? Are you aware that an enormous amount of chemistry, mathematical, computer science, physics, etc. is funded through the NIH? The poster I responded to complained I gave too many examples, and now your post is a complaint that I didn't give examples in scientific areas you deem important. For tedious completeness here are a variety of other examples all of which involve math, physics, chemistry, computer science and other non-biomedical fields. * Proposed cuts to NIST -- https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/nx-s1-5340687/trump-cuts-nist-atomic-spectra-lab-advanced-chips-medical-devices https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/nx-s1-5340687/trump-cuts-nist... * NASA -- https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/white-house-may-seek-to-slash-nasas-science-budget-by-50-percent/ https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/white-house-may-seek-t... * Department of Energy -- https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/29/energy-departments-project-hit-list-draws-bipartisan-pushback-from-lawmakers-00254729 https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/29/energy-departments-...