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It's been amusing to watch everyone get big mad at every passing AI style fad. Some people can't stand seeing others have fun when that fun doesn't involve pay

It's been amusing to watch everyone get big mad at every passing AI style fad. Some people can't stand seeing others have fun when that fun doesn't involve paying others.

bakugo 2y ago
> Some people can't stand seeing others have fun when that fun doesn't involve paying others. This "fad" very much does involve paying OpenAI.
- renewiltord 2y ago
  Please do not spread misinformation. You can do it on the free account. I checked with a new account.
  - 6stringmerc 2y ago
    By participating in the AI system you are contributing to the progress of the business and though you are not paying currency, you are paying with behavior that they can capitalize upon.
    - TeMPOraL 2y ago
      Yes, and which part of what you wrote is actually a bad thing?
    - stale2002 2y ago
      So then the point stands that its basically free. And the point stands that it is dumb that others are mad about people having fun with this.
    - robocat 2y ago
      Why do you write a comment that is so focused on money? Do you only think about money (positively or negatively)?
    - BeFlatXIII 2y ago
      …which isn't money.
  - SirSavary 2y ago
    Who do you think is paying for the compute?
    - TeMPOraL 2y ago
      Sama from a retrocausal loan from a future AGI? Alien space bats?
    - stale2002 2y ago
      Not me. Which means that It "doesn't involve me paying anyone". So the point stands.
    - BeFlatXIII 2y ago
      Some idiots with 401k investments looking for a windfall, I assume.
- _zoltan_ 2y ago
  I've been transforming our family images for free.
  - rideontime 2y ago
    And now you're getting bumped down to 3 images per day. https://x.com/sama/status/1905296867145154688 https://x.com/sama/status/1905296867145154688
  - zomglings 2y ago
    You feel comfortable uploading your family images to OpenAI servers?
    - _zoltan_ 2y ago
      what exactly do you think they are going to do with it?
      - zomglings 2y ago
        Use it as training data for their models.
        _zoltan_ 2y ago
        it will be one of the pictures in tens/hundreds of millions of pictures, maybe.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  It doesn't require it, but even if some people are doing it on the paid plan - ignoring for the moment that the argument is asinine because this is a fixed recurring payment, not pay-per-use - why do you care? Some people have fun and it involves paying other people; if you're neither, it's still none of your business.
  - bakugo 2y ago
    Why so defensive? I never stated any such opinion on it. I just pointed out the fact that it's not some sort of anti-capitalist activity that doesn't involve monetary transactions - billionaires are actively getting richer out of this.
    - TeMPOraL 2y ago
      And I'm saying that: > I just pointed out the fact that it's not some sort of anti-capitalist activity that doesn't involve monetary transactions Nobody wants or cares about it being anti-capitalistic. It's just free snacks or up-front pay for an all-you-can-eat buffet. Yes, somebody pays for this, but no, this is not in scope or relevant for people enjoying the meal. > billionaires are actively getting richer out of this. As they should. Yes, we know they are, and it's fine. That is just the fundamental of market economy: someone earns money by providing useful goods or services. It's not a problem in itself, and neither is the fact that there may be a billionaire involved. Getting wound up about billionaires specifically is a shtick of people who want to sell your eyeballs to advertisers, and/or sell you their ideology. The former is a cancer on modern society. The latter is even worse. (Yes, there is growing income inequality, unfair concentration of wealth and power, and such. But putting it all on "billionaires" - the modern witches and demons - is just a trick that conveniently redirects any blame from people, organizations and systems contributing most to the core problem.)

It's been amusing to watch everyone get big mad at every passing AI style fad. Some people can't stand seeing others have fun when that fun doesn't involve paying others.

bakugo 2y ago

> Some people can't stand seeing others have fun when that fun doesn't involve paying others. This "fad" very much does involve paying OpenAI.

renewiltord 2y ago
Please do not spread misinformation. You can do it on the free account. I checked with a new account.
- 6stringmerc 2y ago
  By participating in the AI system you are contributing to the progress of the business and though you are not paying currency, you are paying with behavior that they can capitalize upon.
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    Yes, and which part of what you wrote is actually a bad thing?
  - stale2002 2y ago
    So then the point stands that its basically free. And the point stands that it is dumb that others are mad about people having fun with this.
  - robocat 2y ago
    Why do you write a comment that is so focused on money? Do you only think about money (positively or negatively)?
  - BeFlatXIII 2y ago
    …which isn't money.
- SirSavary 2y ago
  Who do you think is paying for the compute?
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    Sama from a retrocausal loan from a future AGI? Alien space bats?
  - stale2002 2y ago
    Not me. Which means that It "doesn't involve me paying anyone". So the point stands.
  - BeFlatXIII 2y ago
    Some idiots with 401k investments looking for a windfall, I assume.
_zoltan_ 2y ago
I've been transforming our family images for free.
- rideontime 2y ago
  And now you're getting bumped down to 3 images per day. https://x.com/sama/status/1905296867145154688 https://x.com/sama/status/1905296867145154688
- zomglings 2y ago
  You feel comfortable uploading your family images to OpenAI servers?
  - _zoltan_ 2y ago
    what exactly do you think they are going to do with it?
    - zomglings 2y ago
      Use it as training data for their models.
      - _zoltan_ 2y ago
        it will be one of the pictures in tens/hundreds of millions of pictures, maybe.
TeMPOraL 2y ago
It doesn't require it, but even if some people are doing it on the paid plan - ignoring for the moment that the argument is asinine because this is a fixed recurring payment, not pay-per-use - why do you care? Some people have fun and it involves paying other people; if you're neither, it's still none of your business.
- bakugo 2y ago
  Why so defensive? I never stated any such opinion on it. I just pointed out the fact that it's not some sort of anti-capitalist activity that doesn't involve monetary transactions - billionaires are actively getting richer out of this.
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    And I'm saying that: > I just pointed out the fact that it's not some sort of anti-capitalist activity that doesn't involve monetary transactions Nobody wants or cares about it being anti-capitalistic. It's just free snacks or up-front pay for an all-you-can-eat buffet. Yes, somebody pays for this, but no, this is not in scope or relevant for people enjoying the meal. > billionaires are actively getting richer out of this. As they should. Yes, we know they are, and it's fine. That is just the fundamental of market economy: someone earns money by providing useful goods or services. It's not a problem in itself, and neither is the fact that there may be a billionaire involved. Getting wound up about billionaires specifically is a shtick of people who want to sell your eyeballs to advertisers, and/or sell you their ideology. The former is a cancer on modern society. The latter is even worse. (Yes, there is growing income inequality, unfair concentration of wealth and power, and such. But putting it all on "billionaires" - the modern witches and demons - is just a trick that conveniently redirects any blame from people, organizations and systems contributing most to the core problem.)