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> China systematically undercuts our industries with slave labor By this argument isn't America undercutting Europe by taxing companies less and being ok with

by tock 2y ago

> China systematically undercuts our industries with slave labor By this argument isn't America undercutting Europe by taxing companies less and being ok with less worker rights? > China is already at war with us Who is us here? Because you are threatening a takeover of Greenland and giving up Ukraine to Russia. Not to mention tariffing and threatening your closest allies. > and sharting on their environment Per capita co2 emissions USA: 14.21 China: 8.89

mschuster91 2y ago
> By this argument isn't America undercutting Europe by taxing companies less and being ok with less worker rights? We, at least until Trump, got the US military keeping Russia out of Europe and dealing with a whole lot of other bullshit we were too frugal to deal with on our own on the global stage. > Who is us here? Because you are threatening a takeover of Greenland and giving up Ukraine to Russia. Not to mention tariffing and threatening your closest allies. Europe, that should be obvious from context. > Per capita co2 emissions CO2 is one thing, but the time that the Western world had smog events like China had up until their Olympic Games is decades in the past. Besides, China's per-capita emissions are driven down by the fact that they still have a lot of utterly poor people that barely cause any emissions.
- tock 2y ago
  > We, at least until Trump, got the US military keeping Russia out of Europe and dealing with a whole lot of other bullshit we were too frugal to deal with on our own on the global stage. Well we have Trump now. > Europe, that should be obvious from context. There is no "we" if you threaten to invade land and treat us like enemies. I thought the sarcasm was obvious. > CO2 is one thing, but the time that the Western world had smog events like China had up until their Olympic Games is decades in the past. How many decades of pollution did the USA emit developing through the last century while Asia didn't because they were insanely poor because of war and colonisation? > Besides, China's per-capita emissions are driven down by the fact that they still have a lot of utterly poor people that barely cause any emissions. Germany has a per capita co2 emission rate of 8.01 so even lower than China. The USA is at 14.21.
- DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
  > the time that the Western world had smog events like China had up until their Olympic Games is decades in the past. China has actually made very significant efforts to reduce smog, and there's been a huge improvement in the last 10 years. There's still way more smog than in the US or Western Europe, but it's gotten dramatically better, and it will probably continue to get better.
davidf18 2y ago
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by tock 2y ago

mschuster91 2y ago

> By this argument isn't America undercutting Europe by taxing companies less and being ok with less worker rights? We, at least until Trump, got the US military keeping Russia out of Europe and dealing with a whole lot of other bullshit we were too frugal to deal with on our own on the global stage. > Who is us here? Because you are threatening a takeover of Greenland and giving up Ukraine to Russia. Not to mention tariffing and threatening your closest allies. Europe, that should be obvious from context. > Per capita co2 emissions CO2 is one thing, but the time that the Western world had smog events like China had up until their Olympic Games is decades in the past. Besides, China's per-capita emissions are driven down by the fact that they still have a lot of utterly poor people that barely cause any emissions.

tock 2y ago
> We, at least until Trump, got the US military keeping Russia out of Europe and dealing with a whole lot of other bullshit we were too frugal to deal with on our own on the global stage. Well we have Trump now. > Europe, that should be obvious from context. There is no "we" if you threaten to invade land and treat us like enemies. I thought the sarcasm was obvious. > CO2 is one thing, but the time that the Western world had smog events like China had up until their Olympic Games is decades in the past. How many decades of pollution did the USA emit developing through the last century while Asia didn't because they were insanely poor because of war and colonisation? > Besides, China's per-capita emissions are driven down by the fact that they still have a lot of utterly poor people that barely cause any emissions. Germany has a per capita co2 emission rate of 8.01 so even lower than China. The USA is at 14.21.
DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
> the time that the Western world had smog events like China had up until their Olympic Games is decades in the past. China has actually made very significant efforts to reduce smog, and there's been a huge improvement in the last 10 years. There's still way more smog than in the US or Western Europe, but it's gotten dramatically better, and it will probably continue to get better.

davidf18 2y ago

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