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How many children with how many women? How many disowned? False accusations of pedophilia against people he doesn’t know? Free speech absolutist who gleefully b

How many children with how many women? How many disowned? False accusations of pedophilia against people he doesn’t know? Free speech absolutist who gleefully bans speech? Corporate acquirer who accidentally fires key people, and then makes the exact same mistake as a coup leader? He is batshit. He is also smart and has accomplished some impressive things. The two are not incompatible.

WalterBright 2y ago
> How many children with how many women? How many disowned? That's common human behavior. > False accusations of pedophilia against people he doesn’t know? Against a single person who had just called him "insane" on TV. Not nuts at all. > Free speech absolutist who gleefully bans speech? Not all speech is free speech - you cannot advocate for hits on people, for example. Besides, it's perfectly legal to censor speech on his platform. Not nuts at all. Musk has made no attempt to suppress speech on Bluesky, Facebook, Reddit, Tiktok, etc. > Corporate acquirer who accidentally fires key people That's not how it worked. Twitter was losing money at an astonishing rate, and he had to cut expenses immediately. It is the fastest way to determine who was actually needed and who wasn't. Then hire back the ones who were actually needed. > makes the exact same mistake as a coup leader? It's the only way to do it when time is critical. It's also the only way when the agencies are doing everything possible to not cooperate with DOGE. There's been no coup. Trump was lawfully elected.
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- loxodrome 2y ago
  Great answers! Couldn’t agree more.
- brookst 2y ago
  Well, I hope the kool aid is tasty at least. Do you ever stop and think it’s an amazing coincidence that every criticism of Musk is totally unfair?
  - WalterBright 2y ago
    When a criticism sounds like a substitute for the real reason a person hates Musk, it is totally unfair. For example, where was the disgust at the person who publicly called Musk insane first? A fair criticism would have included that. A fair person would also be aware that there is not a single person on the planet who has not called someone else a nasty name.
    - bobchadwick 2y ago
      In related news, I know you are, but what am I?
- pcwalton 2y ago
  > Musk has made no attempt to suppress speech on Bluesky, Facebook, Reddit, Tiktok, etc. This is false if "etc." includes Wikipedia, on which Musk has attempted to suppress speech critical of him [1]. [1]: https://theweek.com/media/elon-musk-wikipedia-controversy https://theweek.com/media/elon-musk-wikipedia-controversy
  - WalterBright 2y ago
    Musk made no attempt to use the courts or the law to bring down Wikipedia. He did denounce Wikipedia, and called for people to not support it. That's not an attack on free speech.
    - pcwalton 2y ago
      Bad timing on your post. Just today, Elon tried to get content he didn't like taken down from Reddit, using specious legal reasoning: https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-messaged-reddit-ceo-over-content https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-messaged-reddit-ceo-o...
      - WalterBright 2y ago
        Calling for public execution of DOGE personnel is not free speech. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886501169154957587 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886501169154957587
        brookst 2y ago
        Ah, so Musk must have X systematically taking down calls for public execution of his political enemies, then? This is a legit exception to free speech absolutism and he is just asking Reddit to do the same thing he does on his platform.
        WalterBright 2y ago
        It's illegal to call for violence against others. It's also illegal to call for a violent attack against the government.
- testing22321 2y ago
  > Musk has made no attempt to suppress speech on Bluesky, Facebook, Reddit, Tiktok, etc. Actually it just came out yesterday he did try to suppress free speech on Reddit.

WalterBright 2y ago

> How many children with how many women? How many disowned? That's common human behavior. > False accusations of pedophilia against people he doesn’t know? Against a single person who had just called him "insane" on TV. Not nuts at all. > Free speech absolutist who gleefully bans speech? Not all speech is free speech - you cannot advocate for hits on people, for example. Besides, it's perfectly legal to censor speech on his platform. Not nuts at all. Musk has made no attempt to suppress speech on Bluesky, Facebook, Reddit, Tiktok, etc. > Corporate acquirer who accidentally fires key people That's not how it worked. Twitter was losing money at an astonishing rate, and he had to cut expenses immediately. It is the fastest way to determine who was actually needed and who wasn't. Then hire back the ones who were actually needed. > makes the exact same mistake as a coup leader? It's the only way to do it when time is critical. It's also the only way when the agencies are doing everything possible to not cooperate with DOGE. There's been no coup. Trump was lawfully elected.

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loxodrome 2y ago
Great answers! Couldn’t agree more.
brookst 2y ago
Well, I hope the kool aid is tasty at least. Do you ever stop and think it’s an amazing coincidence that every criticism of Musk is totally unfair?
- WalterBright 2y ago
  When a criticism sounds like a substitute for the real reason a person hates Musk, it is totally unfair. For example, where was the disgust at the person who publicly called Musk insane first? A fair criticism would have included that. A fair person would also be aware that there is not a single person on the planet who has not called someone else a nasty name.
  - bobchadwick 2y ago
    In related news, I know you are, but what am I?
pcwalton 2y ago
> Musk has made no attempt to suppress speech on Bluesky, Facebook, Reddit, Tiktok, etc. This is false if "etc." includes Wikipedia, on which Musk has attempted to suppress speech critical of him [1]. [1]: https://theweek.com/media/elon-musk-wikipedia-controversy https://theweek.com/media/elon-musk-wikipedia-controversy
- WalterBright 2y ago
  Musk made no attempt to use the courts or the law to bring down Wikipedia. He did denounce Wikipedia, and called for people to not support it. That's not an attack on free speech.
  - pcwalton 2y ago
    Bad timing on your post. Just today, Elon tried to get content he didn't like taken down from Reddit, using specious legal reasoning: https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-messaged-reddit-ceo-over-content https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-messaged-reddit-ceo-o...
    - WalterBright 2y ago
      Calling for public execution of DOGE personnel is not free speech. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886501169154957587 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886501169154957587
      - brookst 2y ago
        Ah, so Musk must have X systematically taking down calls for public execution of his political enemies, then? This is a legit exception to free speech absolutism and he is just asking Reddit to do the same thing he does on his platform.
        WalterBright 2y ago
        It's illegal to call for violence against others. It's also illegal to call for a violent attack against the government.
testing22321 2y ago
> Musk has made no attempt to suppress speech on Bluesky, Facebook, Reddit, Tiktok, etc. Actually it just came out yesterday he did try to suppress free speech on Reddit.