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This happens every time this topic comes up on HN. A lot of commenters here apparently think that all "art" means is having an object that has a pleasing aesth
by lukev 2y ago
This happens every time this topic comes up on HN.
A lot of commenters here apparently think that all "art" means is having an object that has a pleasing aesthetic.
Meanwhile every artist knows that art is defined by _intersubjectivity_... it comes _from_ an experiencing, feeling subject and is interpreted and by other, experiencing, feeling subjects.
So it doesn't actually matter if a lot of people who know nothing about poetry like ChatGPTs poems more than human ones. Because people who _actually_ care about poetry care about what is being said, and why, and what experiences are being conveyed. And that's something a LLM can't do.
My 10yo kid loves drawing and painting. He's still working on skill, getting better, but diffusion models are clearly much much better at rendering images of any style and subject.
But my kid makes art, and the model doesn't.
- GolDDranks 2y agoYour point on intersubjectivity is spot on.
- ramraj07 2y agoThis sounds like how most smart people rationalize religion as well. I mean you do you, but to me, a canvas with blobs of stringy paint evokes more emotion if it was done by an elephant or a computer ai instead of some "troubled artist" in the 60s.
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- evilsetg 2y agoThe question of what is art is a philosophical one and does not have one conclusive answer. While I like your definition it is not __the__ definition of what art is nor is it agreed upon by all artists. I like to think art is anything that speaks directly to us, moves us or inspires us.
- lukev 2y agoSure, I’m definitely not claiming to have the one true definition of art. But I AM claiming that the tech types who have both defined art and declared that AI is good at it are full of shit.
- oska 2y ago> I like to think art is anything that speaks directly to us, moves us or inspires us. Then that would include anything in the natural world that evokes such feelings and this clearly goes against the meaning that 'art' has had over millennia.